MaximumCuddles
The world-spirit texting on the toilet
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MaximumCuddles
The world-spirit texting on the toilet
6mo ago
This equivocation is maddening.
Jimmy Kimmel basically did the equivalent of going on live TV the day after 9/11 and said “Bush did 9/11 and if you think otherwise you are a fucking retard.” and very predictably got shitcanned for it.
This is nowhere near the cancel culture of 2014 - 2022 where leftists were digging up ten year old tweets of jokes in semi poor taste, private conversations or video of teenagers singing along to rap in their car in high school and getting people expelled or fired.
How on earth can you justify this belief?
MaximumCuddles
The world-spirit texting on the toilet
6mo ago
”It’s more likely than you think.”
MaximumCuddles
The world-spirit texting on the toilet
6mo ago
That’s fair, but as far as I know there’s never been an appetite to comb through every single second of their footage of their streams until now.
There’s a ton of material to work with. Who knows what a dedicated team could actually put together.
Might not move the needle at all, but I’d be amazed if anyone had been able to get away with such a detailed look before.
MaximumCuddles
The world-spirit texting on the toilet
6mo ago
Yeah if the DOJ really wants to go after them for Incitement, I think they might be in legitimate trouble.
Which I personally find hilarious to contemplate.
MaximumCuddles
The world-spirit texting on the toilet
6mo ago
The really funny thing for me which I knew at the time was the clash of the scale of the things they were talking about.
Health officials stating that “police violence against black s” was our “most important health crisis” which somehow overrode COVID.
I knew at the time how many “unarmed” black men were killed by police; it was like 12 per year. 12 goddamn people in the entire United States. In a year. With a very generous definition of “unarmed” which includes; had a gun but dropped it, had a gun within arms reach, etc etc.
The average democrat voter thought it was around 10,000 a year, an exaggeration in the ballpark of 10,000%.
These same people were claiming that literally millions of people would possibly die if their despotic covid policies weren’t followed to the letter.
Even in their own exaggerated rhetoric I couldn’t make it make sense.
It was maybe my first experience with an absolutely unsteelman-able position which looked suspiciously like mass voodoo, like witnessing 90 million people fall to dancing mania in the year of our lord 2020.
It’s one of the cheapest and most widely commercially available hunting rifles in the world. A single shot, bolt action hunting rifle.
The kind of firearm that is available even in countries with strict gun control.
The idea that gun control would have prevented this is nothing short of farcical.
It’s the firearm equivalent of like… a common chef’s knife. Or a two door sedan. A claw hammer. Or bleach. Or gasoline. All incredibly common things that can nevertheless be used by a determined attacker to kill someone.
MaximumCuddles
The world-spirit texting on the toilet
6mo ago
I suspect to the people who label Charlie Kirk as a “far right white nationalist” (apparently that’s what it says or has said in the past on Wikipedia) whatever constitutes a “moderate” conservative is purely functional; it’s just by definition a conservative that plays within their framework and they can control and don’t feel threatened by.
MaximumCuddles
The world-spirit texting on the toilet
6mo ago
I’ve seen enough ass covering in the last 48 hours from the same people who had been calling Kirk a Nazi for years to not take these people seriously.
MaximumCuddles
The world-spirit texting on the toilet
6mo ago
I appreciate your perspective on this and offer a counterweight, if you will.
There was a joke going around on X, that I’ll paraphrase;
Red state republican: “Democrats have some crazy, stupid ideas and I’m sure glad they aren’t in charge here but I know a few and they’re not all bad.” Blue state republican: “I, personally, am willing to volunteer to pilot the helicopters throwing democrats overboard over the ocean if it means there’s a 1% chance to escape this never ending hell.”
While this is very funny, I also think the opposite is largely true; the hicklib, the blue tribe striver living in red states, is by far the most extreme example of what I’m talking about.
If you’re in a comfortably blue city in an area in a blue state, it’s hard to communicate how rabidly partisan these types can be.
I travel a lot for work, and not just from urban center to urban center, I spend a lot of time in little mountain towns and beach towns, places really just for locals.
The stereotype of the urban blue tribe applies triply to blue tribe people in smaller towns & rural areas as their identity is so tied up with bitter struggles with their own background and family.
MaximumCuddles
The world-spirit texting on the toilet
6mo ago
Yes, I do.
In the year 2025, the remaining rank and file registered democrats are amongst the most successfully propagandized people in the history of the world.
I’m not talking about the occasional voter. Imagine the modal democrat primary voter; the habitual democrat who votes down ballot every election. The people that really form the core of the Democratic Party voting bloc.
I genuinely think of you handed that person a button which would explode a bomb underneath Elon Musk’s feet they’d wait about a millisecond before slamming it.
MaximumCuddles
The world-spirit texting on the toilet
6mo ago
Sure, there’s gradients to this whole thing.
When I learned Osama Bin Laden died I went out and had a celebratory beer and enjoyed it in quiet, satisfied contemplation. He was unambiguously and directly responsible for the mass murder of thousands of my fellow citizens, and I was glad he was dead. But even then I didn’t gloat or grab a megaphone and shout it from the rooftops.
The behavior I see from leftists en masse from the death of even the mildest right wing figure is so routinely ghoulish that I’ve come to expect from them that I struggle to think of these people as actually human. This isn’t new, either, it’s been this way basically my whole life.
I’m not expecting his political opponents to theatrically shed a tear for him, just not acting like literal demons cackling with glee would suffice to temper my rage towards them. I consider it well earned at this point.
MaximumCuddles
The world-spirit texting on the toilet
6mo ago
I think this, combined with much stronger deterrents against violence like virtually omnipresent surveillance & a much stricter identification system, actually suggests that as a society we are actually more violent than before, at least on the long tail of extreme violence.
It does certainly seems true that low level violence like fist fights or domestic abuse seems to have lessened, but that seems to me a function of deterrence against relatively rational actors. Extreme violent actors are less easy to deter, maybe near impossible.
I think the desire and ability to conduct extreme levels of violence has plainly never been easier, and I think on a memetic / psychological level the desire for violence is through the goddamn roof.
I think in ways that are difficult to point to statistically, we very well might be in the most violent age of man since we lived as hunter gatherers and the most likely cause of death for men was murder.
A forum / memeplex founded by rationalist quokka types are going to be logically one of the last places to really feel this in their gut. I applaud the pro-social nature of some of the puzzled faces around here but the heat just got turned up a whole lot and I’m nervously looking at the clock tick up towards midnight.
MaximumCuddles
The world-spirit texting on the toilet
6mo ago
Allow me to rephrase;
“If someone is glad that Charlie Kirk, a moderate conservative squish, is dead and deserved to be killed for what he believed, they’d be ecstatic if I or people like me died / were killed based on what I believe.”
This thought occurred simultaneously to maybe tens of millions of people all at once yesterday.
MaximumCuddles
The world-spirit texting on the toilet
6mo ago
It’s like Trump said “They’re not after me, they’re after you! I’m just in the way.”
If you’re understandably skeptical of that coming out of Trump’s mouth, it’s ten times more credible when you shift the subject to Charlie the relatively milquetoast debate bro.
All over social media seems to be the common refrain; “If leftists wanted Charlie Kirk dead, they want you dead, too, they just don’t know your name yet.”
MaximumCuddles
The world-spirit texting on the toilet
6mo ago
Relatable.
MaximumCuddles
The world-spirit texting on the toilet
6mo ago
Yeah that place got squeezed to death I think more directly from being in the eye of Sauron, its users just got systematically purged over time I imagine and the ranks never got refilled.
MaximumCuddles
The world-spirit texting on the toilet
6mo ago
Not to be flippant, but how do you respond to “The Constitution is not a suicide pact.”?
Because increasingly to anyone who even has a shade of American nationalism in their body, the actions of the blue tribe writ large are unambiguously suicidal / homocidal (depending on your perspective on who’s included) to the American Nation as traditionally defined up until now or the very recent past.
MaximumCuddles
The world-spirit texting on the toilet
6mo ago
I know you're American in your heart of hearts, don’t worry pardner.
Do you think there’s more southerners that west coast people? That’s the interesting question for me; I’m technically a southerner but like most people in the south I know the major urban areas are still super blue tribe & full of transplants and strivers.
Hicklibs are the most militant recent converts of the blue tribe, they might as well be their own weird third thing.
The ratsphere is super west coast but since this is TheMotte I’d suppose that the cultural core of SlateStarCodex would be underrepresented rather than over. We are exiles, after all.
MaximumCuddles
The world-spirit texting on the toilet
6mo ago
This makes me mildly curious about the geographic breakdown of this place; although I know we have several desi & European poasters, I assumed like 80% of the people here are American or live in the US.
Are there more east coasters or west coasters, southerners or heartlanders?
That alway remained mysterious to me, although I assumed the west coat was more common due to the ratsphere influence.
MaximumCuddles
The world-spirit texting on the toilet
6mo ago
You’re interpretation is the correct one, which I thought was rather obvious. It was a paraphrase of an earlier comment I made about a similar subject;
There comes a point when a house is so pockmarked with termites and water damage that the only sensible solution is the wrecking ball.
Are there some sections still good and salvageable? Yes. Could you theoretically save sections of the house? Yes but the time and effort needed makes the opportunity cost too high.
Or to put it in more bloody terms it’s like Iwo Jima; eventually you just learn to throw grenades in every cave and light fires at every entrance. Sometimes there’s enemies there and sometimes not. There may or may not be scant civilians clinging to life in the caves.
The rational conclusion is to not care, and go forward in a workmanlike manner and get it done, and quickly. Delays only serve to weaken you.
Which is why I found this ban to be particularly annoying even if it was so brief.
But I’m a bit surprised that it’s against the rules to say something to the effect of it being rational to consider an entire institution including every single member a target. That’s not what I was saying exactly but that’s a perfectly legitimate point of view.
When you’re a marine in Iwo Jima, you light fires at every cave entrance after you’ve thrown 3-4 grenades in. Then you move onto the next one. And the next one.
There’s nothing worth saving in there that just won’t slow you down and get your people killed.
That’s just where we are in the culture war. How could anyone be surprised at this point?
MaximumCuddles
The world-spirit texting on the toilet
7mo ago
Did Kulak eat a ban? I must have missed that, I just thought he got really involved on X / Substack and drifted away.
MaximumCuddles
The world-spirit texting on the toilet
7mo ago
It hasn’t been quite that long since I’ve deleted my account, only a few years, but I’d put the probability of me using Reddit again on any substantial level again around 5%. It would take a miracle to get me to use it again even on a weekly basis.
It’s joined a bunch of other sites in the dustbin of things I don’t use. Might as well be Friendster or Snapchat at this point.
Very compelling, this is not my area of expertise so I’ll take your word for it.
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