RandomRanger
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RandomRanger
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8mo ago
Firstly, Europe and India do not belong in the same category as 'non-American'. Europeans founded the USA. France and Spain helped America break away from England. Americans speak a European tongue, LARP as Romans with the Senate and Capitol, Eagles and Fasces and Cincinnati. American law is just English law with a twist.
Americans are just a different kind of European, the most successful offshoot. India is totally different. E pluribus unum is not a hindi expression. India is not fundamentally a European country, even if they kind of speak English and kind of have European law. The heritage they look back to, the culture they live in, the religions they worship are not European.
You seem to consider meritocracy as an end in and of itself. Why? Meritocracy will throw your children into Korean style hell-schooling and hell-exams to raise the GDP. Meritocracy will make you work 996 hours. Any mistake you make can be permanently recorded and held against you - incentives dear boy. Economic efficiency demands trackers on your work PC to ensure you're working hard. Economic efficiency demands that your factory be closed down and sent to Bangladesh to eke out 3% higher profit for someone else.
It will raise the GDP but at what price?
Economic efficiency and meritocracy should not be the goal of our culture and civilization. If we go down this path, then AI will do to us what you want to do those who 'didn't earn it'. Nepotism and being extremely lazy is not good either, there needs to be a balance. I am not anti-meritocracy per se but there should be limits.
Art, culture, family, fun, play and nation matter. Preserving a nation enables trust and strengthens the benefits of meritocracy while limiting the weaknesses. You can trust that the other guy isn't lying about his exams, that he won't screw you over and steal your IP because you share a background, you're of the same tribe. That's what tribes are for! You can't be totally trusting of course but better than limitless meritocracy (which is ironically just a breeding ground for ethnic cliques and corruption). Homogenous nations are important, they enable trust and stability. Nation is the opposite of diversity, it prevents this whole problem at the start. What happens when you bring in a million smart people from a foreign ethnic group and they start working together to infiltrate your institutions and build up their own power base, bootstrapping their merit into corruption? They have an advantage in cohesion and trust over the rest.
It's no good to say that the progressive left and the far-right are similar. They have markedly different goals in most respects. The far left wants everyone to be the same shade of brown, they have a particular distaste for European just about anything, they want DEI which is the reverse of meritocracy, they want mass redistribution from rich to poor. The far right wants there to be more Europeans, they're super pro-European, moderately pro-meritocracy, reasonably happy with the market system though they want some constraints. They are much more meritocratic than the far left. It's not a horseshoe, I think that concept has done permanent damage to political ideology.
How would you go about convincing him that he would be doing more to secure a future for his children (and his genes) by urging his son to associate with gay Catholics and non-binary/MTF cat-girls, than he would by letting his son date that thicc Latina from down the street?
How is this relevant to anything? He goes for the blonde girl shouting slurs on tiktok of course.
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8mo ago
The Openrouter link in my post is just for big deepseek r1, I'm not talking about the little distills.
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8mo ago
Thanks for reading more of the thread, I didn't see that part!
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8mo ago
Well, they haven't produced the desired result of 'Russia being unable to sustain its war effort', 'Russian elites overthrowing Putin due to not getting luxury imports' or 'China being unable to reach the frontier of AI research'. The Russian economy is performing quite well. Everything seems to be going up, real gdp, real incomes:
https://carnegieendowment.org/russia-eurasia/politika/2024/05/russia-war-income?lang=en
However, given the growth in income tax payments (and that Rosstat assesses that 59 percent of incomes in 2023 derived from wages), it can be said with confidence that real incomes have risen faster than inflation since the full-scale invasion.
They're not totally ineffective. But most small, thin, unfit women aren't totally ineffective at fighting. They're just not significantly effective. They still lose vs big strong men.
I think they found way to use their compute much more efficiently somehow, that's the key secret that they're not open-sourcing. Deepseek models are insanely cheap to run compared to Western models. If they're cheap to run, it follows that they're probably cheap to train.
Just look at openrouter: https://openrouter.ai/deepseek/deepseek-r1
Deepseek as a provider is by far the cheapest and fastest with modest but totally usable context length and output limits. The Americans serving this (with potentially superior GPUs) are completely shitting the bed, half their responses just stall in the chain of reasoning and don't get anywhere, despite them being 10x more expensive. They clearly have no idea how to run this model, which is reasonable since it's deepseek's baby. But Americans can all run American models just fine at the exact same price. Claude on google or amazon costs exactly the same. I think in addition to the advantage of knowing how to use their model they have some secret insight into how to use compute efficiently.
On the other hand, US export restrictions just don't work. Russian oil is still being sold, it just goes in circuitous routes through India to reach Europe. Russian imports of luxury vehicles from Europe still happen, it just goes through Azerbaijan or Kazakhstan.
China still buys H100s. They have money. Nvidia wants money. Middlemen want money. World markets go brrr. Deepseek is surely capable of rustling up a big cluster, or the Chinese state could give them access to one. Or they could borrow some via the cloud. Export controls work on big rare things monopolized by governments like H-bombs and fighter jets (and maybe semiconductor equipment which needs manufacturer support), not finished products that are produced en masse.
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8mo ago
https://x.com/ptrschmdtnlsn/status/1882480473332736418
According to this guy, they're doing reinforcement learning on self-play.
You get a base model, do chain-of-thought prompting to make it smarter, then distill that into a slightly better base model which produces slightly better results with chain of thought... And away we go!
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8mo ago
Wrench turners are not safe, see lights-out factories.
"Oh but I install HVAC outside in an unplanned physical world"
Humanoid robots are training in simulation. They're coming. High skill white collar workers? They're coming.
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8mo ago
Black is both physical-genetic AND cultural but the genetic level is most important.
You can be ethnically white and act in the most black ways, that makes you less white than you would otherwise be in a holistic sense. But even so, you wouldn't become black. Elizabeth Warren isn't Native American even if she does a few rituals, whereas an actual genetically native american who acts like Elizabeth Warren could still be native american. People might say 'she's not acting like a native american' because she has all this money and poise and prestige and a certain kind of status.
The specific 'sort' you're talking about are MORE black than other blacks but other blacks are still black. Joe Biden is talking about precisely this, he means 'you're not acting black as you should be' if you vote Republican. But voting Republican doesn't automatically make you white, they still get classified as black Republican voters.
Likewise certain east-asians (Koreans and Japanese) are more white than others, so they don't get as much affirmative action and people call them model minorities. But they're not fully white, just more white.
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8mo ago
Yeah there's a large strain of thought on the far-right that AI is basically a meme concocted by soyboy WEF types, that it's massively overhyped and if anything might just end up hurting the email-class. Of course it's not unique to them, lots of smart people in the current era saw GPT 3.5 and went 'this is what AI is, ok, moving on' and think it's a bubble.
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8mo ago
Maybe a surgical, well-defined seek and destroy mission would be helpful.
But the US is so mentally/strategically turbulent! Afghanistan was supposed to be a surgical seek and destroy punitive mission. Rumsfeld didn't want to do nation-building. But the whole planning process was so chaotic and prone to mission-creep that it just bloated out of all proportion. The same cadres and officers that organized that fiasco haven't been purged or anything, they're still running the US military.
And I foresee all kinds of toxic political and strategic reactions. The Chinese will bitch and whine about their shipping being illegally searched on the high seas, then they'll do the exact same thing to Taiwan six months later. Mexicans in the US will cause all kinds of problems about the inevitable civilian casualties. The cartels might do their standard 'kidnap and kill the politicians' trick in the US instead. A schizo with a hammer got up close to Pelosi's husband, a schizo with a rifle nearly wiped out Trump... You don't get to run a cartel by being soft or weak, I wouldn't want to tangle with these guys.
I foresee a huge risk that such an operation would be either ineffective or suck the US into a cycle of overreaction and unexpected problems that requires grim determination to overcome. Russia is grimly determined in Ukraine but we've yet to see the US reaching that level of seriousness. I think it would be more prudent for the US to stay at home and cultivate harshness in a safer environment.
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8mo ago
I don't like falling in the same camp as the 'China is the source of all evil' people but there is a good chance that the Chinese state is smiling on people exporting fentanyl precursors to the US. "Try to wreck our high-tech industries with sanctions and keep us in the middle income trap? Plant COVID on us (note that China also has an official history that the US used bioweapons against them in Korea)? We will bury you in narcotics, we'll wreck your high-tech industries with IP theft and industrial policy."
I saw the whole documentary. The fact that this sort of thing is acceptable or met with shrugs, they're just too strong, too manly for us to control makes me want to short America and long China.
The key thing is that they're not that strong militarily. Drug dealers are pretty manly I guess but that won't help them if you whisk them away to have their organs harvested like China does. Police >>> drug dealers. But the key thing is mobilizing the will to crush them. El Salvedor proves it's not about material capacity but about will, that's what I'm fixated upon.
If the US went in with the will to win, no matter what, they would find wiping out the cartels to be easy and quick. It truly would be shock and awe. Britain and the Soviets casually partitioned Iraq and Iran during WW2 while they were fighting much more serious battles elsewhere, it was trivial for them. Conquering Iraq would be easy in military terms for the US. But it's impossible politically because the necessary will to win doesn't exist. These poor US soldiers were constantly capturing jihadists and sticking them in prison (where they exchanged tips with other jihadists) - then releasing them only to capture them again. There was no will to fight seriously and no proper campaign objectives. They rushed far too quickly to elections and democracy.
The US conquered the Philippines back in the day, it's really not that hard to squelch opposition with force. But you have to do imperialism consciously and confidently, you can't go in thinking 'I'm going to liberate these people with freedom and human rights to form a liberal democracy', you have to be serious about controlling the food, water and fuel, about appointing the puppet government (or maybe just a military governor) and crushing dissent. You have to have the credible threat of massive retaliation looming behind you as you restructure and create a new government.
The US can't bring itself to put on the face-covering villain helmet with the glowing red eyes and do this kind of thing. That's the key lesson of Afghanistan IMO, if you want to win you have to go in and make them play your game rather than try to appeal to the natives. Force them to stop raping children, force them to stop planting opium, forcibly relocate them, force them to respect you as the stronger party, not a pinata full of cash to be siphoned away with tricks and wordgames. That's what the US did to Japan and Germany, they basically razed and raped two powerful countries into submission.
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8mo ago
War with the cartels would go really badly for the US IMO. It's not that the US lacks the firepower or the manpower or the wealth, they lack the political capacity and will to execute these kinds of imperial military operations. The US military is best at defeating conventional forces in conventional wars (preferably massively outmatched ones like the Iraqi army). They are not good at imperial wars and suppression campaigns. They are not good at regime change or stabilization or propping up a puppet government.
If cartels are so easy to beat in Mexico, why can't the US wipe out the drug dealers in America? For a long time I've been saying 'just get rid of the drug dealers to solve the problem'. The US has the technical capacity to track down the drug dealers, they have drones and spies and informants and everything you'd need. Drug addicts can find drug dealers, how hard can it be? There are literally open air drug markets in major US cities! The US doesn't have the political capacity to do it, they don't have the legal capacity and the willpower to actually wage a war on drugs (as opposed to a pretend war on drugs).
How well did the US fare in the last campaign against a nebulous collection of unconventional forces in a drug-rich foreign land? After initial military successes, they fared very, very poorly. The lessons of Afghanistan should be applied to Mexico which is considerably larger. Plus the global balance of power has changed a lot since 2001 and not in the US's favour. Chinese pharmaceutical companies have been fighting a proxy war with Mexican cartels on the streets of Philadelphia (because they do have the kind of willpower and capacity I'm talking about): https://x.com/SantsPliego/status/1748496050543837404
China and Russia would leap at the chance to flex their muscles and make even more problems in the US's sphere of influence, tie them down and bleed them. The cartels would start acquiring MANPADs, ATGMs, explosives, cash, drones. Is the US capable of searching every Chinese cargo ship heading to Mexico?
How should the US act? Slowly build up political capacity step by step, don't leap straight to the end boss. Crack down on drugs at home before an ill-planned, hazy military action overseas. Fight where you are strongest and where the enemy is weakest, build up confidence and experience.
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8mo ago
Some combination thereof but also the degen slope. Femgooners (and also just gooners).
See my earlier exchange on some of the stuff that's really popular on AO3 (never mind the more niche parts where the smut comes thick and fast): https://www.themotte.org/post/877/culture-war-roundup-for-the-week/187490?context=8#context
There are some fanfic classics: HPMOR, Harry Potter and the Seventh Horcrux, Harry Potter and the Natural 20
I read a little xianxia, started Dao of the Bizarre Immortal (interesting and original but didn't quite hit the high-fantasy button for me), Outside of Time (too generic), Lord of the Mysteries (also interesting but too slow IMO though everyone raves about it and its getting an anime). Reverend Insanity is by far my favourite, uniquely original, clever and thematically interesting too with the metanarrative stuff. Very long and unfinished due to a ban, RIP. Selfmadehuman liked it a lot too.
Problem with writing is that even R1 (with my crude and admittedly poor prompting) suffers from a lack of soul. It rehashes too much, it rehashes well (and a lot of authors only rehash too) but I want more soul. If you ask it to be creative, you get generic machine creativeness. And when it does behave a bit more genuinely creative things get loose and kind of dreamlike, you're on its wild ride. It'll make up bizarre formats. Still quite fun though.
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8mo ago
"AO3" is insane because it appears to be one of the most legitimately dangerous websites with the potential to gigafry your brain but is exclusively read by literal turbonormies who unironically want to like "read Dramione angst squee fic" and basically get oneshotted by it.
I'm joking but I also think it might be true in a certain sense. I have seen some stuff on AO3.
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8mo ago
Nancy Pelosi is white and finds political advantage in being against white privilege. Joe Biden for instance used to say 'we already have a nigger mayor, we don't need any more nigger bigshots' and 'I don't want my kids to grow up in a racial jungle'. He now talks about how it's great that the US is going to be minority white, how 'it's the source of our strength'... These people sway with the wind. Their words don't necessarily have any sincerity behind them. They say what they think will help them (or what they are given to say).
The existence of defectors doesn't disprove the existence of groups.
Anyway, HR doesn't need to come up with a foolproof definition of white or Asian or diversity if they want more diversity. They just do it. In Australia there are statutory declarations of aboriginality that people need to get affirmative action jobs. But no such thing is strictly necessary. There is no definition of 'culturally and linguistically diverse people', the unwieldy phrase positively defies definition. Yet it works. And so does white, for the very same reason.
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8mo ago
In a dark irony, the Nazis did end up bringing in millions of more-or-less (but usually more) forced labourers to produce machinery (including rockets!) for them, despite being ultranationalists. If you squint at it, it's a bit like Elon bringing in engineers from all around the world to work super hardcore at his companies.
But the real difference is ideological. The guest workers in Germany were a temporary pragmatic measure to replace the German soldiers deploying to the front in industry and agriculture. They were never going to get permanent residence in Germany. The German state was for Germans only. And Germany was going to get larger so there could be more Germans. The state exists to enlarge, unite and strengthen the people.
Elon's public meltdown about H1Bs and race puts him on the other side entirely, he wants the American state/ideological enterprise to do well regardless of what happens to Americans. Anyone can be an American. The people are here to enrich and empower the state, get humanity to Mars...
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8mo ago
Some of the ERP I've been seeing from it is quite unsettling. Who the hell ERPs to this nasty stuff? This is the machine speaking, not the prompter.
NSFW: https://x.com/teortaxesTex/status/1882072811461918929
Beginning to think we should be more careful about inducing this manic schizo state in AIs. Imagine if they foom out of control and gravitate towards this state (which you can sort of see in Sonnet and Opus too when they get manic). We will suffer the dual indescribable torment of disempowerment/mutilation by a hostile, horny AI and of Yudkowsky being right.
Need to thread the needle between the Scylla of corpo-speak HR Manager bot and the Charybdis of Deranged Machinery.
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8mo ago
I'd like to see Johnson define "white" in the American context
Binding dictionary definitions are pointless here. Normal human beings can make a judgement with human wisdom on whether someone is white. You can look at their physiognomy (African Albinos aren't really what we mean by white), their skin colour, their diction, dress, language, bearing... You can distinguish ultra-white 'I love Trollope novels' Jared Taylor from the kind of youth seen here: https://x.com/MythoYookay/status/1882007121266717151
You can judge a continuum of whiteness between the Swiss watchmaker types to the Tibetan tribesmen or Amazonian indigenous tribes. People might disagree on the ranking and the metric but there will still be a spectrum. And because language can't handle continuous spectrums very well, we use words like red, green, yellow and white not as rigid formal tools but to gesture at a cluster of properties.
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8mo ago
Nuclear missile production is just a standard industrial task, the Soviet Union could crank out thousands of big MIRVs with 1980s technology. I understand that China is somewhat rate-limited on enrichment, they don't have these huge cold-war enrichment complexes that produced huge arsenals back in the day. But how hard is it to make the machinery to produce plutonium?
Furthermore, would nukes in space clear out Brilliant Pebbles? There were rumours about Russia already deploying nuclear weapons into space sometime ago, the Chinese might do the same thing. You could harden the satellites against the EMP but that would make them a lot bulkier to deploy.
Also, how do you deploy such a system without giving the game away? It invites a pre-emptive nuclear strike in the months and weeks before the system becomes fully operational. As you say, it seems like a very big gamble for missile defence.
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8mo ago
By the way, are you doing this via their website or via openrouter? I can't see chain of thought on openrouter, is that a 'me being too dumb to figure out how to use the tech' problem or is it just choosing the wrong provider?
Deepseek R1 and Project Stargate
A few days ago the Chinese AI firm Deepseek released their newest reasoning model, R1. It's very clever according to the benchmarks, roughly on par with OpenAI's O1 at a tiny fraction of the price. My subjective analysis is that it still feels slightly uncanny/unwise compared to Sonnet 3.5 but is also more capable in strategic thinking and not making stupid errors in mathematics. These models are spiky, good in some places and weak in others. Somehow these things can reason together hundreds of lines of code but can't reason simpler, spontaneous things like 'is special relativity relevant here?'. Deepseek R1 also has a totally different attitude to Sonnet, it will stand up for itself and argue with you on matters of interpretation and subjectivity rather than constantly flip-flopping to agree with you like a yesman's yesman. It's also quite a good writer, slop levels are falling fast.
OpenAI has O3 coming soon which should restore qualitative superiority for the US camp. However, Deepseek is still just a few months behind the leading US provider in quality. They're far ahead in compute-efficiency. The clowns at Facebook have far more GPUs, far more money and aren't hampered by sanctions... What have they been doing with their tens, hundreds of thousands of H100s? Deepseek also flexed on them, finetuning Facebook's Llama models into much more capable reasoners as the cherry on top of their R1. Now even local models can display strong maths skills.
At the same time, Deepseek founder Liang Wenfeng was seen with the Premier of China: https://x.com/teortaxesTex/status/1881375948773486646
It's hard to judge whether this is significant, Xi Xinping >>>> the next most influential man in China. Plus, premiers meet lots of people all the time. However, China does have lots of resources, they could probably encourage some of the less capable Chinese AI companies to hand over their compute to Deepseek. China spent hundreds of billions on semiconductor policy for Made in China 2025, they can easily give Deepseek access to real compute as opposed to a couple-thousand of export-grade Nvidia GPUs. Tencent has at least 50,000 H-series GPUs and hasn't done anything particularly exciting with them as far as I know. (I asked R1 and it pointed out that Tencent has also made their own smaller, cheaper, mildly better version of Lambda 405B that probably nobody in the West has ever heard of: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2411.02265).
However, OpenAI has just announced 'Project Stargate' - a $500 Billion dollar investment in AI compute capacity over the next four years for OpenAI alone. Microsoft, Oracle, Nvidia, ARM are all working together with Softbank and some others, with the US government looming behind them. To a certain extent this is just repackaging re-existing investment as something new. But it's hard to get more serious than a $500 billion dollar capital investment plan. This plan was announced at the White House and Trump smiles on it, he took the Aschenbrenner pill some time ago.
https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1881830103858172059
It's funny to hear Trump reading out this stuff in a complete monotone, like he's bored or sleepy. 500 billion dollar investment... meh, who cares? He does seem to like Altman though, thinks he's the biggest expert in AI. I suspect Altman has used his maxxed out corporate charisma on Trump as well: https://x.com/levie/status/1881838470429319235
Interestingly, there's another huge disparity between the two AI competitors. China enjoys complete dominance in electricity production and grid expansion. They doubled electricity output in 10 years, the US has been treading water. The US talks about a nuclear renaissance and is building 0 new reactors. China is building 29. It's a similar story in all other areas of power production, China produces roughly a Germany's worth of power production every single year. It's possible that Trump's 'drill baby drill' can change this but the US is starting from very far behind China in this part of the race.
There are considerable power issues with Stargate, more gas and coal will be needed to bring it online. Also another perspective on Trump's 'energy emergency' as being about AI: https://x.com/energybants/status/1881860142108377412
I see a conflict between two paradigms - power rich, GPU-poor and hyper-talented China vs power-poor, GPU-rich and grimly determined USA.
Political relevance? Trump perks up for a moment: "We want it to be in this country, we want it to be in this country, China is a competitor, others are competitors..." Deepseek has a wildly different vision for AI, open-sourcing everything the moment they can. I don't need to quote the ridiculously benevolent-sounding interviews where they talk about the honour of open-source for engineers as a big part of their strategy - they've backed up talk with action.
I find it quite ironic that the censored, dictatorial Chinese are the bastions of open-source technology for the everyman while the democratic, liberty-loving Americans are plotting to monopolize the most powerful technology in history and shroud it in secrecy. I suppose that's another cultural difference between the West and China. We have been fixated upon the dangers of robotics and mechanization for 60 years if not longer. We have the Daleks, the Cybermen, Skynet, HAL, GLADOS, the Matrix, SHODAN, Ultron, M3gan and so much more that I've not even heard about. Our cultural ethos is that AI is supremely political and dangerous and important and must be considered very very very carefully. There are good AIs like Cortana but even Cortana goes rogue at points.
The Chinese have... a goofy meme robot with a cannon on its crotch. As far as I can see, that is the absolute closest thing they have to a malign robot/AI in their cultural sphere. There's nothing with any broad cultural salience like Skynet, only this silly little guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xianxingzhe
I think this may be relevant to how AI programs are developed and the mindset of AI development. Google, Facebook and Anthropic are all spending huge amounts of time and resources to be careful, making sure everything is safe and nontoxic, making sure they're genre-aware, carefully considering the worldshaping effects of the algorithm, ensuring the AIs can't escape and betray them. Someone in Google really wanted there to be black Vikings in this world and made it so in their image model. Whereas the people at Deepseek don't really care about politics beyond holding to the party line in the required areas, they go: 'don't be such a pussy, advance forwards with longtermism'.
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"Russian and Chinese military spending does the opposite" says the hippy "and all we get are these retarded wars and megadeaths that grind on for years where almost nobody gets what they want and everyone pays a shockingly high price. Why can't we all just get along?"
There are a bunch of complex reasons why we can't get along probably rooted in the human condition and likewise there are complex reasons why people want to speculate or do things that aren't strictly rational or productive. I feel no desire towards Bulgari handbags but I don't think 'these should be banned because they're socially useless moneysinks that unworthy organizations use to make money they shouldn't really have because they make these things high-status'. Let people enjoy things.
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News of great import: https://x.com/0xRenaissance/status/1881085743336181974
If you look at the memecoin's price chart on its side, it looks a bit like Trump's face.
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Yes but in 'theory' everyone could cut military spending to zero and not have to worry about being invaded. But that's obviously not practical.
Likewise banning crypto would be impractical for the same reason that banning stocks in the 18th century was also impractical. Speculation occurred. There were dangerous bubbles that caused serious economic problems. But there were advantages in having liquidity and a developed financial system. Crypto also performs various important functions that aren't fully understood by anyone right now, like stocks back then. Fast global transactions, cheap and secure storage of wealth, recordkeeping, smart contracts...
The President of Columbia seems to be having a meltdown on twitter over Trump sending people back to Columbia: https://x.com/petrogustavo/status/1883624818811236502
There's not really much point quoting individual parts, it's all just the most deranged stuff I've ever seen from a serious politician. No, I don't think Columbia can claim heritage from Ancient Egypt. I really don't understand why these small weak countries make such a big fuss on the world stage. "We are peoples of the winds and mountains" isn't so great compared to the peoples of the armies, markets and missiles.
There's probably more that can be unearthed from the implications of 'blacks and Latinos should be working together... in fights in the US capital' comment too, you get a glimpse into the minds of these people.
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/colombias-petro-will-not-allow-us-planes-return-migrants-2025-01-26/
Trump is also playing the cringe-diplomacy game:
How many years until presidents are tweeting soyjaks at eachother?
Edit: Trump victory: https://edition.cnn.com/2025/01/26/politics/colombia-tariffs-trump-deportation-flights/index.html
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