Silverdawn
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35-year old male from Eastern Europe.
User ID: 2412
Silverdawn
I wake up 🔄 There's another psyop
4mo ago
What is better for Ukraine, justice or peace?
Well, "peace" would result in the murder, rape, imprisonment and displacement of ~all Ukrainian citizens. So effectively genocide. Russia has already done this to many of its more "problematic" cultural groups in the past. What would justice look like? Presumably extreme reparations, maybe imprisonment of some war criminals. But I can't imagine who would force Russia into this position.
So the Ukrainians will continue fighting and dying. They don't really have any choice.
Silverdawn
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3mo ago
this forum is overrun with Russian Propaganda
I have seen some on youtube but not a single one on this forum actually.
How much aid would you provide? Weapons? Money? No-Fly Zone? Air support? Troops on the ground? Nuclear umbrella? Something else?
The most important idea is making it clear to Putin that he needs to back off or the US will take a more active role in the conflict. I would have given him an ultimatum, a week to make significant steps towards a ceasefire or 5 US divisions arrive on the front. In fact, I assumed this was exactly what Trump meant while talking about "ending the war in 1 day". Putin would have caved because his nation is barely hanging on while fighting against a 3rd rate local power. This is from the perspective of 2 months ago of course, when this was still a US proxy-war. I actually don't think the US is in a position to threaten anything anymore, Donald Trump burned too many bridges and diverted too many resources.
What is the end-state your policy is aiming for? A ceasefire? Deter subsequent Russian invasion? Restoration of Ukraine's original borders? The Russian army destroyed? Putin deposed? Russia broken up? Something else?
The "ideal" outcome would probably be a return to pre-war Ukrainian borders or similar, and a somewhat neutral Ukraine. Meaning, not Russia's puppet but not a puppet of the EU either. So a neutral grayzone and a hard stop to the Russian conquest of neighboring countries. And the US could have gotten A LOT of natural resources, of course. They would have been the obvious side to build mines and factories since the Ukrainian infrastructure and economy will be in shambles whenever the war eventually ends.
Is there an end-state or a potential event in the war that you think would falsify your understanding of the war, and convince you that providing aid was a bad idea? Another way of putting it is, do you think your views on the Ukraine war are falsifiable, and if so, what evidence would be sufficient for you to consider it falsified?
Maybe there's an asteroid about to destroy Earth tomorrow and Russia is somehow the only country in a position to stop it and conquering Ukraine is somehow necessary for destroying it?
I dunno, I have a difficult time imagining the continuation of the conflict as necessary or good or sensible in any way.
Some people are afraid of MAD but I can't imagine Putin dooming his country to nuclear devastation. He doesn't care about many things but he does care tremendously about Russia's stability and continued existence.
Silverdawn
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1yr ago
Friends I cannot stress this enough: have kids.
People talk about loss of meaning and loss of rigid rites of passage that take you from being a child to being a man.
It's kids. It's always been kids.
Having kids is really hard (I apparently phrased this poorly since people are responding to it as if I am saying the opposite. My point is that you will find that the following things are the things you end of loving, and you will find the idea that these should ever have prevented you from having kids to be childish): your house will constantly be a filthy mess. They will keep you from sleeping, they will make it impossible to go out to dinner or to go to parties, and they make travel really difficult. Any of the dreams of adventure that you had before you had kids will be pushed back by 10 years.
And NONE of that will matter once you have them. You'll find the idea that you ever cared about any of this stuff laughable.
I remember asking my parents why they had created me when I was about 12. They told me something to the effect of 'You'll get it when you're older and have your own children.'
22 years have passed since and absolutely nothing has changed about my perspective. I see a lot of negatives: less free time, less money, interruptions during sleep, horrible noises and messes to clean up. The potential that I might have to spend the rest of my life as the caretaker for a human with brain damage or some other deformity. And so on and on.
And what are the upsides? I might have some positive experiences at some point? Is that it? I've seen a lot of what I would hesitantly call 'pro-natalism' but I haven't seen any real reasoning or logic. Maybe it's just a hormonal thing and that part of me was damaged or never formed because I legitimately don't understand people who want to be parents.
As far as 'Just trust me, it'll be worth it'. My answer is, sorry but no. I have been guided towards bad decisions far too many times already and this one in particular seems especially horrible in terms of possible consequences.
Silverdawn
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1yr ago
Does it matter whether you use "easy" or "simple"? The question in my eyes is: "Is it probable"? And statistically speaking, CICO is not likely to result in success.
What do you think of the tariffs?
Mostly, I'm surprised previous US presidents haven't used the immense economic and geopolitical advantage of their country more.
If you're asking for a moral judgment, history only remembers good victors and evil losers. So if Trump wins, he will be remembered as a good president and vice-versa.
He already forced his will on Panama and Mexico and he'll probably keep 'winning' the same way. There are scant few nations on the planet who can afford to say 'no' when threatened with 25% US tariffs.
Silverdawn
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5mo ago
I expect the rates to be actuarily fair and the median customer to have been better of self insured.
That doesn't make any sense. For an insurance to exist as a business, they have to take more then they're giving to the average customer. They have to pay for offices, ads and personnel. Maybe you got lucky and are temporarily ahead financially, but long-term insurance will always result in a net negative for the customer.
Silverdawn
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1yr ago
I've actually had similar thoughts as well. I wish there was a way to post a "here's an interesting topic/piece of news" without spamming up the forum.
Silverdawn
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1yr ago
Some people seem to think Rashida Jones was used for the initial AI voice.
Personally, I think whatever happens, this is a win for OpenAI/Microsoft/Sam Altman.
The likely worst-case legal scenario is a lawsuit followed by settling out of court for a trivial amount.
As far as public opinion, there are essentially 3 groups of people:
Group 1 doesn't care about this silly drama
Group 2 are the neon-haired neo-feminists who will scream about evil misogynistic capitalists on social media
Group 3 are techbros and people at the top of companies whose reaction will be "Wait, Sam Altman has created a real-life version of Samantha from Her? When can I get a copy and how much???"
People will probably try to hurt Sam Altman as has happened to the likes of Elon Musk and Rowling but I don't see that going anywhere. The US government doesn't have a problem with him and the OpenAI board has already been "cleansed of disloyal elements", to put it bluntly.
He's going to piss off half of his readers and maybe get a handful of votes at best. Not worth it imo but I suppose it's none of my business.
Silverdawn
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1yr ago
I thought the writing was quite good actually (8/10). A bit predictable at times but very pleasantly deep at others. Both in terms of consequences for actions and in terms of ethical questions. I had a very serious 20minute long discussion with my sister regarding one particular issue in act 3: is it morally correct to kill a predator who has done nothing but help you in a MAJOR way and insists that he will continue to do so?
In what way did it pass the Turning test? It does write news articles very similar to a standard journalist. But that is because those people are not very smart, and are writing a formulaic thing.
If you genuinely do not believe current AI models can pass the Turing Test, you should go and talk to the latest Gemini model right now. This is not quite at the level of o3 but it's close and way more accessible. That link should be good for 1500 free requests/day.
Silverdawn
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11mo ago
The idea that obese people eat nothing but junkfood is a strawman. Every single fat person I know tries to eat healthy. Every single one. And they are 95% successful at it too.
Silverdawn
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1yr ago
You would think so, but they don't. They pull the current non-conservatives along to the left with them.
European governments have steadily been moving towards the right the last few years.
Silverdawn
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1yr ago
Why do you feel Disco Elysium is explicitly leftist? I'm not disagreeing necessarily, just curious. I thought the game satirizes and mocks all political leanings, including leftists.
Silverdawn
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1yr ago
And how long did the death from starvation take? A few weeks, maybe a month at most? Meanwhile human will force human into a prison to suffer for decades. I would much, MUCH rather starve in a month or two.
Silverdawn
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2mo ago
I'm playing Drova right now, it's amazing. Gothic 1/2 but with a better story, a bigger world and a slightly more involved crafting system. Easy 9/10 recommendation.
I am morbidly curious. Can you link some?
Here is a transcript from one of the court cases.
I regret reading even some of that. Don't think I'll be getting any sleep tonight. And the UK government actively covered up this massive gangrape ring for thirty years. Absolutely unthinkable that such a thing can happen in the 21st century, in a first-world country.
Silverdawn
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7mo ago
I really hate Gleba too. In hindsight, the biggest problem is you essentially have to beat the entire challenge before you get a reliable source of iron and copper. But you're going to get attacked regardless of whether you're doing well or not. There are other problems but the 'you're getting attacked and you have no good way to get bullets' is just an awful design decision.
In the end, I also went with the 'army of logistic bots' solution. I really wish there was some way to get future technologies without the Gleba science though, having to keep a space platform constantly running there and back is incredibly annoying.
Silverdawn
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8mo ago
I had a pretty serious case of pneumonia in 5th grade, the doctors pumped me full of who-knows-what and my body simply lost the ability to process lactose afterwards. The condition is actually quite common outside of Europe and the US.
Silverdawn
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8mo ago
Maybe try an eliminating diet to check if the food you're eating is causing the problems. I remember having a similar problem when I initially became lactose intolerant. Stopping all milk consumption fixed it.
Silverdawn
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8mo ago
If you feel like writing more, I would be interested in reading a detailed description of your experiences. Both with getting access to the medication and its effects.
I have no idea what the black and white bar that randomly pops up at the top is, what actions make it move, what my goal is regarding it, and what its state is at any given time. I suspect it's important, but I have no idea what to do with that feeling.
That's a pseudo-morality system, you can safely ignore it. You'll get an ending slide near the end of the game that recaps the state you've left each chapter in. And those slides are based on the final balance between black and white for each separate zone.
Silverdawn
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11mo ago
Thinking in terms of responsibility seems pointless to me. Ultimately, there are goals and actions that bring us closer to or farther from those goals. Saying "X is guilty, he chose to do something" doesn't get you closer to your goals. This type of thinking does make sense on a societal level, as a way to reduce independent actions that might hurt the tribe but it doesn't make sense for an individual. You punishing someone else can only help you indirectly, in a manipulative way. Like, if you "expose" a pedophile, your social status might increase slightly. But I don't like where this type of thinking leads to, so I don't do it.
So my solution is to simply think about guilt as little as possible and only under the context of "If other people think Y person is guilty, how will they behave?".
In your example, that means:
"The older generation worked under specific circumstances that made them act a certain way, it's too bad if their actions caused harm." and likewise for the younger generation.
Silverdawn
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1yr ago
But seriously why? Why do I feel such scorn, revulsion and anxiety at even the mere thought of these behaviors ?
I think it's the indirect manipulation, no? There's an expectation there that you will read, understand and even change your behaviour. And if you don't, you're "the problem".
There are also elements of attempted mind-reading and meta-planning (not just what will happen but in what way to manipulate the events so that the correct ones take place).
I dunno, my attitude whenever I come across this type of thinking is "Just be a reasonable person and spend time with reasonable people."
"Nausea" is exactly how I felt as well. Trump could have had such an easy win: show the world the US is still the keeper of peace and justice, bloody the nose of one of America's two main rivals and get natural resources worth trillions for the US economy. Instead, him and Vance are acting like 10-year old playground bullies, antagonizing their allies and showing the world the US will only follow through on promises when convenient.
As someone on a different forum put it, the main danger for Russia right now is running out of champagne.
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