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If they just flat out refuse every single person from the 90 IQ pool on the basis of very easily identifiable characteristics they don't have to do that and can as a result be more efficient in their search through a higher quality pool.

It might be more efficient, but is the thing you're improving efficiency on really that much of a constraint in the first place?

Like it would take X amount of time for 100 immigration officials to thoroughly sift through 1000 applications. You're suggesting we save those 100 people a lot of time by implementing a race based admissions system, why not just double or triple the amount of immigration officials? It's not like they're a big item in any country's budget.

Sex toys for men becoming widely accepted would lower women's value in the sexual marketplace in the same fashion that a UBI puts upwards pressure on the lowest wage.

They might also placate a lot of low value men to the point where women are grateful for the drop in attention, it wouldn't be the type of attention they're trying to win after all.

This is anecdotal but having worked in a couple of kitchens I've been surprised at how well veggie burgers sell. I've never tried them myself but apparently they taste pretty good.

The other stop is 10 feet away (I’m bad with feet, more like 5 metres) but clearly a distinct stop. Think of a bunch of separate queues and a few empty stops in between, like an intercity bus station.

There aren't any other non-white TDs (members of parliament) to make the attempt in the first place (and Varadkar is already half-Irish). At the moment it looks like Simon Harris is going to be the next Taoiseach, he's shifty-eyed even for a politician.

True, though some of the ones brave enough to set fire to buses might be.

There’s been a lot of tension between Brazilian couriers and Dublin’s feral youth these last few years. A lot of Brazilians work courier and food delivery jobs and a certain section of young Dubliners like stealing their motorbikes. I don’t know the number but a few Brazilians have been severely injured or killed by joyriders and thieves (or in one case by the police trying to stop the thieves).

except from the most conspiratorially-minded places like /pol/

/pol/ really enjoys bringing it up but it's not that obscure. Looking it up on Youtube I see a BBC documentary from 2002, an Al Jazeera documentary, a Jocko Willink Podcast discussion and some small high production value channels giving an animated breakdown.

Ireland

TAOISEACH LEO VARADKAR has said that Palestinian refugees will not be granted the same temporary protection as Ukrainians and claimed that Ukraine is in a ā€œdifferent categoryā€. . .

While Varadkar said he thinks the treatment of Palestinian refugees is ā€œvery unfairā€ globally, he said that the group was ā€œdifferentā€ when it came to providing them with the same protection status as those fleeing Ukraine.

Speaking on RTƉ Radio One’s Today with Claire Byrne, Varadkar said: ā€œI think Ukraine is a different category. It’s a European country, it’s an EU candidate state, and we’ve given us a special recognition by granting temporary protection.

Varadkar said ā€œPalestine is differentā€ and said that he believes that it would be the responsibility of the ā€œarab countriesā€ to welcome the those who have been displaced, similar to how Ireland has with Ukraine’s.

Not granting Palestinians the same streamlined entry as Ukrainians doesn't necessarily mean much as there are still a lot of people coming in via the normal asylum system, but the suggestion that Arab countries should take care of Arabs (and the implication that European countries should take care of Europeans) is something I would have expected to be outside the Overton window. Europe is quite a varied place, but one of the more pro-refugee countries saying this makes me think the countries which have had problems with Arab migrants won't hesitate in doing the same (Ireland's migrants are nearly all EU, Ukraine, or Brazilian so Islam is not really a domestic issue).

Notably a lot of left-wing politicians went back on their past promises (this campaign goes back at least 2 years) to vote to expell the Israeli ambassador, a motion was passed today condemning the violence etc and the Sinn Fein leadership made no effort to include this condition in their suggested amendment of the wording. Sinn Fein has been quietly dropping some of their more radical proposals as they come closer to actually winning an election so this isn't a huge surprise, but getting softer on Israel is something that will annoy a lot of the more left-wing portions of their base.

hardcore antisemitism is (not exclusively, of course) a particularly Irish thing even in the US

Maybe I just can’t see the water I’m swimming in but I don’t think modern Irish people are antisemitic (Keith Woods and 4chan posters excepted). The first half of the 20th century was pretty bad (like the Limerick Boycott), but since then Jews are barely talked about in Ireland because there are only like 1,000 of them. The anti-Semitic stuff I heard from Muslims and Poles in Ireland struck me as a fairly foreign thing when I first heard it.

Irish people oppose Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians for the same reason they opposed South African Apartheid: not because Jews or Boers are inherently worthy of hate but because if you squint you can sort of draw parallels with Ireland’s experience under British rule. Irish people support a Jewish leader in Ukraine because Russian actions remind them of British colonialism, they supported the Sinn FĆ©in Rabbi when being pro-Israel meant fighting the British, they oppose the Israeli state’s treatment of Palestinians because it reminds them of what the British did. Everything is interpreted through the lens of our history, we’re too self-centered to be anti-Semites.

Ireland (I will update this later as I do more reading)

It seems giving multinational companies low tax rates is a gift that keeps on giving. Despite a massive increase on covid related spending Ireland ended up with a 10 billion euro budget surplus (this is apparently going to increase to 65 billion by 2027), and they've made use of it to pass a generous 'cost of living' budget consisting of tax cuts, tax credit increases, a minimum wage increase, introduction of more one off welfare payments and an increase in the existing ones in a bunch of different areas. The healthcare sector is seeing a hiring freeze to reduce massive overspending, and the Minister for Health has conceded that there will be a large funding shortfall as a result of this budget (everyone knows the healthcare system does poorly given its funding but no politician has been willing to tackle the issue head on).

Ireland is still a very expensive country to live in and not everyone has a nice job with a tech or pharmaceutical firm, so while this budget is generous its unclear whether it will keep up with the rising costs of day to day life (most of all the insane housing market).

They fall back on reliable distractions (current iteration being video games and anime), and opt out of social activity entirely

I can see one reason to be skeptical about this model. Young men and teenagers fall deep into video game/porn addiction well before the time where it would be reasonable to conclude that they're locked out of the sexual market. It would be ridiculous (in a typical immature way) for an 18 year old to look at his high school romantic failure and say "I guess it gets no better than this", it would be surprising to find an 18 year old who hasn't already spent at least a few hundred hours gaming and indulging in Netflix and some fraction of that watching porn.

There's a real question here as to how demoralizing school must be that men seem to be pre-emptively dropping out of adult life, but there's also the simple fact that distractions are more addicting and ever present than ever before.

You can't tag people on this site yet can you?

That's Hiberno-English for you, I say if we have to put up with "ain't" you should tolerate this.

Bringing the most powerful people in society slightly more in line with the level of safety the rest of us make do with? I'll bite that bullet.

What is that quote about the British empire having such effective administrators because they had a broad education and so could draw on the lessons of ancient history to improvise a solution instead of floundering in the face of anything outside of their narrow expertise?

All else equal, the guy who’s entrenched has an advantage.

What about the guy who is being flanked and cut off from supplies and retreat? He's just an amateur but I regularly keep up with Weeb Union's daily map updates on Youtube and in the winter of 2024-25 for example it was just encirclement after encirclement.

One is constraining what you can think and the other what you can do no? I can't really think of any other desire or valuation (whatever mental category worship falls into) that can't conceivably be negated, though maybe somebody could suggest one. It would be odd to have one where there really is no choice.

Ireland

Continuing from last week's post on Sinn FƩin making a u-turn on the hate speech bill, the Irish Independent has reminded us of one of Sinn FƩin's proposed amendments to the bill just one year ago:

The definition of ā€œhateā€ is laid out in section 10 of the bill and is about preparing or possessing material likely to incite violence or hatred against people on account of their protected characteristics.

Under the Sinn FƩin amendments, migrant status would have become one of these protected characteristics.

The party’s amendments to the laws specified that reference to a person’s migrant status included references ā€œto persons seeking international Ā­protection, persons with refugee status, persons with permission to remain and persons with any other regular or irregular migrant statusā€.

Now given the party's present (probably tactical) lack of clarity on why they are opposing this bill, and the fact the past year has seen the controversy garner worldwide attention, there is still a possibility that Sinn FĆ©in have woken up to the fact that there is political gain to be had in curtailing the most extreme woke tendencies which until recently have gone unopposed amongst all the main parties. This is more plausible in light of the fact that some genuine opposition has arisen within the coalition government, notably Fianna FĆ”il TD Willie O’Dea accusing the Justice Minister of playing to the "woke gallery". It does seem like every party has simultaneously remembered that elections are still a thing and that they've been doing a lot of very unpopular things recently, but whether that will actually lead to a change in direction seems far less likely.

Still, unless some very clear statements are made that leave no doubt about the party being genuinely opposed to any hate speech bill, I'm going to rule out the scenarios of Sinn FƩin remembering that a good portion of their base are the same working class types who have to live beside asylum centres and chalk this down to "left-wingers think left-wing law doesn't go far enough!".

Ireland

The arson attacks have died down (barring one seemingly apolitical attempt to burn down 5 shops in one day in Cork city) and the government has hardened their attitude somewhat towards the abuses of the asylum system, sending one man to prison and arresting dozens of others for showing up at Dublin airport without a passport and promising to resume deportations of failed asylum seekers on chartered flights (the covid response involved putting a moratorium on deportations).

I'm a bit late with this news but it turns out the man charged with setting fire to a Luas tram during the Dublin riot is a member of the National Party, so there is some evidence to the claims that far-right agitators are taking advantage of these protests to commit crimes. Stirring up violence is about all the National Party seems capable of, right now there are two self-proclaimed leaders of the party since Justin Barrett was ousted as party leader (something he denies) after a controversy over a large amount of stolen gold and a police investigation into who actually owns it.

Another slightly out of date headline is that the number of asylum seekers without state provided accommodation broke the 1,000 figure last month, but given the rate of increase it is likely still higher today:

On Friday 9 February, the figure passed 800 for the first time, the following Friday it passed 900, and today, one week on, it has passed 1,000.

Many of these asylum seekers have pitched tents outside the International Protection Office and are protesting the breach of their human rights given the sometimes freezing temperatures and constant rain. It has been the case for a while now that if you show up in Ireland claiming asylum that you will be sleeping on the street, but that doesn't seem to be much of a deterrent.

Not sure if there's no sound or it's just my computer but here's a black guy with his hands completely full of loot drawing strange looks from the rioters: https://twitter.com/wayotworld/status/1727851752697831824

There's videos of Irish people looting too so I wouldn't say it was whites vs migrants as much as political rioters (who are basically all white) vs looters.

The polls and studies I've seen show that the Irish tend to generally be pro-immigration, but it's obviously hard to get a sense of the country through a poll.

This is true, and Irish people aren't the type to cause a scene either way. Working class Dubliners are quite different though, and actual organised right wingers like the National Party are extremely loud for their size (I doubt they made up a large portion of the rioters but probably a decent portion of the guys livestreaming).

Certainly some of the highest status and highest agency men can create their own values, but what about the rest of us?

It depends on what you mean by creating your own values. Does it really require a particularly high amount of societal power or agency? Or at the minimum is it merely a cognitive act involving the recognition that the values you live by have no special authority other than that which you give by assenting to them? Perhaps this is just nihilism and creating your own values demands authorship of something new, but even that is nothing more than a cognitive act at the minimum.

(who are a lot poorer than Americans, yes, if one actually participates in American online forums it would seem impossible to not learn this fact)

I think the scale of the gap is still missed on many, and if you do bring it up people just assume ruinous healthcare and tuition costs level the playing field.

I'll have to look into the Irish Freedom Party. I was pleasantly surprised with how intelligent Justin Barret seemed in his interview with Keith Woods but a National Party protest doesn't seem like something you'd want to risk showing your face at.

Is that because 'revenge' is the same as logically 'wanting to maintain incentives against intentionally doing harm to society' or are you just discounting motivation and looking at the act itself?

If it's the first I disagree with equating the two as revenge can be justified irrationally without concern for the harm to society. I might fully agree with the idea that the legal punishment for an offender is sufficient to disincentivise him and deter others from doing the harm he did again, yet still chafe against the fact that the law is holding me back from doing worse to him than prison can.

but he's ultimately not really hurting anyone other than himself right now. And "hurting himself" in a kind of nebulous, philosophical way.

What's nebulous and philosophical about it? I could call it common sensical and immediately intuitive: you're becoming absorbed in cheap pleasures at the cost of living up to your potential.