Westerly
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Westerly
1yr ago
It just leads to the exchange currently taking place between you and 6tjk which amounts to “No you’re the midwit”. You could have made the point without the meme and it would have been better taken
I’m sorry I don’t understand how any pagan in 2022 can be taken as anything but a larper. Is there any reason at all to suspect these guys are being remotely honest and serious? And talking about solar this and lunar that, how is this not just grown men playing a really pretentious version of dungeons and dragons while imagining that they’re saving the white race?
Westerly
1yr ago
nomenklatura
Can someone explain why I have seen this word maybe 10 times in the past week but never before in my life? Did some prominent person or blogger use it recently?
Any Julius Branson post. He’s the undisputed champ, caused more seething and inspired more terror than anyone else
He also really captures the spirit of this place and has a truly inimitable style and sense of humor
Westerly
1yr ago
Russia is not losing this war, the stakes are too high, so it’s going to keep going on. They cannot afford to give up
What exactly are the stakes? What exactly would happen to Russia that would be so intolerable if they did give up and just went home? Would it really be so bad?
Westerly
1yr ago
Why would he lose his life? Is not endlessly escalating a war against the US also a good way to lose his life?
Westerly
1yr ago
So we set the precedent that threatening nuclear annihilation gets you any concessions you ask for? Sounds like a way to guarantee we get more frequent threats of nuclear annihilation. If it worked once why shouldn’t he keep doing it? Isn’t this where the “don’t negotiate with terrorists” adage comes from? I don’t see how this averts any threat, it just kicks the can down the road by virtually guaranteeing such threats become more common. Now maybe that makes sense if you have some reason to believe you’ll be better positioned to resist them in the future and you just need to buy time, but that isn’t obvious to me
Westerly
1yr ago
I just had this experience in a discussion with someone, and I saw a pattern or script of responses I’m sure some of you have seen before. Intelligence came up, and I was met with “everyone is unique, with their own unique set of abilities, there is no such thing as intelligence.” [Mention IQ] “Oh, wasn’t that debunked by some studies recently?” [Disagrees] “Well IQ tests are just biased towards rich people that know about regattas.” [Deny the regatta myth] “Well all they are measuring is ability to take IQ tests” etc etc etc
I’m not really expecting to persuade somebody to change their mind, but the feeling of going up against this was so daunting. I just felt like I was going up against a castle built by decades of anti-intelligence messaging, and in a Bayesian sense their priors against the very concept of intelligence were so strong that just nothing I could say would even budge them. How do you respond to this? Probably the answer is just walk away. I’m not even sure what I am looking for since I know persuasion really isn’t on the table, but just how do you respond when this comes up in conversation? The person I was speaking with was extraordinarily civil, and not at all upset by my statements fwiw
Westerly
1yr ago
A somewhat related question, but just how does this outright denial of intelligence as a concept square with every day experience? I don’t even understand how this quasi religious taboo can hold up. I mean, are dogs not less intelligent than humans? Do dog breeds not differ in intelligence? Have they ever interacted with someone vastly less or more intelligent than themselves? When you interact with someone maybe 40 or 50 pts lower than yourself the difference is just glaring, I just don’t even understand how you can hold to a denial of intelligence in light of such experiences.
Westerly
1yr ago
Involvement on its own doesn’t mean anything. Ironically this is somewhat analogous to claims of Russia’s involvement in the 2016 elections
Westerly
1yr ago
If I say I will bomb your house if you post on the motte one more time, then you post and I follow through by bombing your house, wouldn’t it be fair to call my action “unprovoked aggression”? But hey, I warned you your motte posting was a red line and you did it! You brought this on yourself! As I see it, whether or not this is “unprovoked” hinges entirely on whether the demands/desires/red lines are reasonable or not, and I’m not passing judgment on that, just pointing out that it doesn’t matter what Russia said in 2008 unless it was reasonable
Westerly
1yr ago
The absolutely autistic behavior is not going to help him get people to engage with him. It is clearly inadvisable to engage with him, you just keep walking and look down
Westerly
1yr ago
But that’s not the point of his post. If he had to establish white nationalism was desirable first he would never be able to get to the questions he wanted to ask. I do agree that he could have probably gotten to his questions without revealing his personal preferences to such an extent though
Westerly
1yr ago
At least for me this is confounded by demographics. Any “reasonably nice” hobby I am involved with is overwhelmingly made up of college-educated whites and jews. That alone tells you what the slant of the place will be outside of explicitly contrarian spaces like TheMotte
Westerly
1yr ago
leftists are always on the lookout for things to subvert. Because extreme leftists fundamentally cannot create, only destroy
Oh come on this is ridiculous. While leftist entryism seems to be a real phenomenon, blanket stating that leftists are just fundamentally evil like this requires a little justification
Westerly
1yr ago
This is the truth. Women are infamous for hating guys that have tinder photos “holding fish” or standing in front of their truck, being classic low status red tribe indicators. If you are on The Motte you shouldn’t be reading as visibly red tribe, and unless you sperg out they will just assume you’re leftist because of the confusing tribal signals.
Westerly
1yr ago
As someone who also honors the traditions of his people
Bro you’re getting seething mad at an internet mod, you can drop the macho trad act for a second
Westerly
1yr ago
How does one look at the current entertainment landscape and conclude we need even more remakes?
Westerly
1yr ago
Hardcore fans are defined by their slavish devotion to some IP, if any group especially lacks taste it is hardcore fans. The tasteful enjoyers move on from a product when quality declines, the cultlike fans are the ones still buying iteration 37 even though quality went down the drain
Westerly
1yr ago
We can now see that the incessant fears of “AEO” and “Sneerclub trolls” were always just ways to shut down discussion of certain topics. There is literally nothing to worry about now that we’re no longer on reddit but the accusations haven’t stopped
Westerly
1yr ago
Just out of curiosity, how does this even come up with your psychiatrist?
Westerly
1yr ago
Huh. I thought therapists were for talking about why you were sad or whatever. I don’t mean to be rude but this just sounds like a paid friend where you just chat about whatever you like. Would he play xbox with you if you asked? Is there a reason you don’t just talk to a free friend about this instead? Once again, not trying to be rude but I had no idea people used therapists this way and it is very shocking to me
Westerly
1yr ago
I may have misread the original comment, but I don’t believe he suggested affirmative action caused BLM, but rather that blank slatism did. And that blank slatism also causes affirmative action
I believe the argument would be like this. Blank slatist observes more black men are shot/killed/imprisoned by police and the justice system. Because of blank slatism the only conclusion can be that this is a result of systemic racism, as opposed to any difference in criminality or violence in the affected populations. This same reasoning is leveraged for affirmative action and BLM: that any different average outcomes can only be the product of racism because of blank slatism.
In my view this is an accurate diagnosis of the faulty reasoning underlying both movements
Can you please not use the midwit meme? You might as well just say “You’re a retard”, but for some reason the mods tolerate one but would never tolerate the other
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