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You and your coworker are suffering from a condition that zoomers would prescribe "touching grass" as a solution to.
Honest advice. Get a grip.
Life is still unkind to most people in the World. Poverty, Death and Disease are a reality for everyone in the world. While you are lamenting about how your descendants will look 300 years from now, your Third World analogue is lamenting the early death of his wife to Tuberculosis.
Living in a racially heterogeneous society is like the 50th thing you should worry about if you want your descendants to live a good life. So you either are ignorant about how bad those 49 other things are or you think this thing is possibly so bad that it is that much more dreadful, neither of which paints you in a rational light.
For all you know your great^n descendants could be murderers and rapists. They could like in a nuclear wasteland. They could be homeless etc. They could be CHINESE. Just take the problem of raising your own children to be the kind of people who will take raising their own children seriously as well, and you will kind find yourself not worrying about what they will look like 200 years later.
The hypothetical politics [+demographics] of the future should not be keeping you up at night, the matters of self improvement and your own immediate family (NOW IN THE PRESENT) and their well being should. Keep your spouse happy, keep your parents happy, keep your kids happy, be useful to your friends, your community and yourself. Embody good culture within yourself and live it, instead of lamenting its dilution through the gene pool. Walk the walk.
The desire to not slide into third world status is precisely the reason so many Westerners do feel this dread. Many feel blessed that their culture has allowed them to solve the tuberculosis problem, among other problems. They worry that an increase in populations from less developed nations could make their descendant’s quality of life worse. And if we’re doing comparisons, at least the TB sufferer did not see his family raped and murdered like in South Africa. And I mean we can go all the way back in time, “why worry about sick? Grug froze and die chasing mammoth. Grug tribe all perish.” But this misses the mark. It’s a completely reasonable fear to not want one’s life worse, even though there are yet worse lives. That’s actually the whole purpose of fear, to prevent worse states.
But appearance is related to traits in the animal kingdom, and the science on genetics points to traits in genetic clusters. So it’s more than skin deep.
I think you are weakmanning my argument by boiling it down to "just because worse things exist doesn't mean my complaints are invalid".
My argument is basically if OP has enough mental energy to worry about "how his descendants will look like 200 years later", I can just about guarantee you OP isn't worrying about his descendants enough right now in the present.
Unless OP's life is that good that he doesn't have to worry about his kids but his kids;kids;kids.
Edit - OP is falling into the midwit trap. Which is dispensing simple wisdom for overly complicated theory.
low iq - "Just live a good life yourself ,man"
midwit - "The demographic trends now show that within n years, the expected gdp/capita is going to be y"
high iq - "Just live a good life yourself, man. Culture is created bottom up from the individual. Don't lament that which is outside your control and outside your understanding. If everyone seriously aims to live a good life himself, society will be good. Live in a way that inspires your community and kids to follow, and culture will create itself, and your kids will perpetuate and spread it. "
I'm arguing for strength not weakness, in the face of adversity.
Can you please not use the midwit meme? You might as well just say “You’re a retard”, but for some reason the mods tolerate one but would never tolerate the other
Also this might just be me, but I automatically assume anyone who uses that word thinks they are demonstrating high intelligence by declaring anyone of average intelligence stupid compared to them. And I assume those people are compensating for the insecurity they feel about their average intelligence.
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If you can decouple the "wit" from the midwit meme, it's a very congent vehicle for the idea 'that complicated is not better than simple'. That "wit" is ranked on clarity/coherence of ideas as opposed surface level complexity.
So no, I quite like the meme.
It just leads to the exchange currently taking place between you and 6tjk which amounts to “No you’re the midwit”. You could have made the point without the meme and it would have been better taken
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