WhiningCoil
Ghost of Quokka's Future
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a vast majority of people would in fact consider it mean to stop someone who wants children from having them.
I'm taxed so much supporting other people's kids, I haven't been able to afford having as many kids as I would have liked.
Solve that riddle in your "lets just give everyone as much as they need" moral system.
You know what, my first comment was excessive, I apologize, but let me also clear some things up.
I don't want nobody to have candles. I want a candle too! But I've spend the last 40 years of my life paying for candles for other people, and bafflingly, have been unable to afford one myself.
Lets drop the candle metaphor for one minute.
I didn't become a home owner until damned near 40. I didn't qualify for any assistance, I had to go it the slow way, saving as much as I could. Savings that got diminished year after year to inflation because the government keeps driving up the national debt on wars and welfare. Meanwhile, the government also subsidized home buying for the needy more and more. Not for me, I can go fuck myself, but for everyone else. Driving prices further and further out of my reach.
One year I asked for, and got, a big honking raise, saved enough in a desperate push to put me over the finish line, and bought a home with a 75 minute (one way) commute.
I wanted my children to grow up in a community like I did, where effectively nobody is ever murdered. Unfortunately, in the name of being heckin' nice people and making sure everyone (except me) is happy, governments keep losing their damned minds and viewing it as some sort of moral imperative to keep insane violent felons on the streets as much as possible. Their happiness and my happiness is truly zero sum.
I wanted my children to get the same sort of education I did, with relatively good and safe schools. Unfortunately, in the name of being heckin' nice people, that went right out the window. We invited the entire third world, with gangs and drugs and the occasional dismemberment murder into our school districts whole sale. They are "sanctuaries" now. You couldn't pay me enough to subject my child to that environment. So I'm effectively taxed again finding alternative arrangements. It's causing me to have less children than I would like.
So here I am, deeply struggling to maintain a standard of living I grew up with, every public institutions inhospitable to me, every public good denied me, and then people tell me "Well, we should still give as much as is actually possible". Fuck, I've had enough stolen from me as is and you want more? How many more years of my life do I need to waste chasing a moving goalpost while others just get it handed to them? How many more children will I give up bringing into this world because so much has been taken from me and given to others than I can't afford them, while others just thoughtless pound them out and then ask me to support their kids? Like I wouldn't like kids of my own that will need support.
You can only call me a ghoul, because you have no idea how much has already been stolen.
So TLDR: Asking for a limiting principle makes me a bad person, so you aren't going to give me one because bad people don't deserve answers.
Actually possible still just rounds off to everything. Give me a limiting principle besides "Gosh, I'm a heckin' nice person and I don't understand why you are being so cruel."
and just keep giving them more and more and more forever because resources aren't finite.
Finish the sentence.
People like you who think "some people are dumber than others" is equivalent with "dumb people don't deserve to be happy and safe"
I believe every person deserves to be as happy and safe as they can accomplish themselves. I don't understand why anybody should be charged with doing it for them, especially to their own detriment. That just inverts the roles. You want to make those incapable of taking care of themselves (or their families) my master.
And we're right back to what I was saying. Leftist clamor for a dictatorship of the proletariat.
You don't say?
Hey, random question, what's the markdown tag for sarcasm?
We’ve engaged in a concerted propaganda campaign for decades suggesting that because moral equality is mandatory, biological identity must also be mandatory. This makes it practically unthinkable to consider that it’s perfectly possible to construct a political system that grants equal rights to all citizens while acknowledging that not everyone can visualize a rotating 3D cube with equal fidelity. But biting that bullet feels dangerous to many. It feels like opening the door to old aristocracies. So instead, we pretend the differences don't exist, which inadvertently creates a new aristocracy of "people who know the right shibboleths."
I wish this was driven by a fear of aristocracy, but I don't think it is. Many of these same people scream for a dictator of the proletariat. They imagine themselves as the rightful aristocracy because they are just heckin' good people, you know? And if they had absolute power they'd show it to you.
No, the fear of noticing is driven by a paranoia of Eugenics. If we abandon people to the consequences of their choices, or heaven forbid their children, then that's nearly the same as putting them on a train to the nearest extermination camp. No, instead the moral thing to do is to feed, clothe and house them and allow them to have as many kids as they want, and just keep giving them more and more and more forever because resources aren't finite. LBJ won a Nobel Prize for inventing the free lunch.
When you ask such a question, most people in their heads would envision a car already at reasonable speed intentionally crashing into a cop, not a scenario which was visible from the various footages here.
Hard disagree! And I think the only reason you think that is because suddenly, the entire discourse is revolving around everyone being a fictitious expert in exactly was sort of pedestrian-vehicle collisions you are allowed to fear for your life in. Prior to this being such a scissor statement, I believe most people would have said "All of them. Are you retarded?" Now, suddenly, because one side can't be correct unless there are hairs to split, people are parsing the exact position of the pedestrian and the SUV, the exact speed they were going, the exact point of impact, the exact angle of the tires. It's all bullshit, it's all hindsight, and it's a standard that no one has ever applied to hitting a pedestrian before in the entire history of cars hitting humans. Ask the poor schmuck who got railroaded into several life sentences at Charlottesville!
Yeah, I'm stilling holding out for a better offer from the other place. Their tech stack is .net which I've spent the majority of my career in, so it's a much better fit. Plus I've received every indication the pay will be better too.
Well, that wasn't nearly as bad as I feared it would be.
Got my first job offer. Even negotiated it up fairly easily. Almost too easily. It's going to involve a lot of Java, and I hate Java, but such is life.
Another company seems to like me, and they are bringing me nearly all day for a whole series of interviews with the whole team I'd be working with. I'm kind of hoping they give me an offer because I think I'd rather work with them. But beggars can't be choosers, and providing for my family comes first.
While I've been feverishly updating my skillset, I think an appreciation for containers finally set in for me. They were a tedious black box that defied my profound need to see all the moving parts transparently. A silent, frustrating wall when the slightest thing went wrong in a tangle of configuration options, CI:CD or honest to god bugs in the container itself. But since I've been speeding through off the shelf dbs, web servers, reverse proxies, caches, etc in an effort to freshen up my knowledge of what's even out there and say with a straight face "Yeah, I've used that before", being able to just download a container with a few configuration parameters has been infinitely easier than cluttering up my OS with a dozen different technologies.
You are washing over the raw fact that this person was purposely obstructing justice. That is still a crime. This wasn't (or shouldn't) be legally protected free speech. She purposely put herself in a position to obstruct legal law enforcement activities. Then we had the front line of lies about her just being confused, or trying to do a 3 point turn, or having gotten lost. Lies which still seem to cling to your heart as a reason none of this deserves to have happened.
But rest assured, if you have Democrat politicians telling their voters "These aren't real police, you don't have to cooperate with them" and you have NGOs training randos "Here are all the ways a lawyer told us you can fuck with ICE that might hold up in court" and you have these twin forces sending people out to fuck with ICE at scale, shootings like this were unaviodable.
Given how quickly the fallacious narrative was spread, and how quickly protest materialized, I'd say that was always the plan.
Do I have iron clad evidence this woman was part of a conspiracy to make this happen? No. But I think you'd be a fool to see she didn't take a very deadly bait from people she thought had her best interest at heart. Which is more or less what the Democrats plan for all of us.
To summarize, you don't get to obstruct justice, you don't get to flee police, you don't get to drive through police. Dude wasn't standing blocking her car, he was circling it filming, likely for evidence. She chose to floor it at him in the 5-10 seconds he was passing in front of her, which was lethally poor judgement on her part. She won a well deserved darwin award. She probably could have gotten away with everything else she'd done but for that. These are not things normal people need fear.
Once again, I'm reminded of another forum I used to frequent, and their emotive meltdown over the Rittenhouse verdict meaning "Conservatives can just murder progressives". Ignoring the fact that before the congenital felons who chased down Rittenhouse got shot, first they were rioting, then they chased him through the streets, then they beat him over the head, then they ignored him yelling to get away, then they lined up one after another for a chance to murder him while he heroically defended his own life. They could have gotten away with the rioting, even chasing him off, without getting shot. All they had to do was not try to murder him, and Progressives whinge about "That could have been any of us!"
Likewise here. All the lady had to do was not drive forward while an ICE officer was walking in front of her, and people like you go "That could have been any of us!" Do you even hear yourself?
Edit: You know, what, furthermore...
This wasn't some "one neat trick cops can use to murder you" type bullshit. I would expect any reasonable person as of a month ago, when asked "Hey, if someone tries to run over a cop, do you think the cop might shoot them?" would have gone "Yeah, probably." I donno, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe we've gone so far that above the bugman constant literally believes cops allowing themselves to be seriously injured or killed is just "part of the job", and they must allow their life to be snuffed out forever by congenital felons, brainrotted retards and traitors.
So you really think that cowering in your home, as the cited person on twitter was saying, is a valid thing we should accept as a society?
I mean, it depends. I think people who don't belong in this country, who are here illegally, if they aren't going to do the honorable thing and leave of their own accord, should absolutely cower in their homes. Why do we want a world where criminals are free to parade themselves around our cities without fear of justice?
Some people deserve to be afraid of the consequences of their actions.
And he loses still further sympathy points if it was him who said "fucking bitch"
This cannot be a serious talking point. This is downright mild profanity compared to what I'd spew if I were hit by a car. Again.
Two things can be true at the same time. She was being a profoundly obnoxious and immature criminal. Hardly unique, nor exculpatory.
She said stuff like "I'm not mad at you" and "I'm pulling out", and those are not the words attempting to murder a federal agent. For fuck's sake, someone (possibly Ross) called her a "fucking bitch" not two seconds after she was shot, which cuts the other way. Again: none of this requires you to think Good's wife, for example (!), or nearby protestors, or Good, are virtuous, only to think that the cop did at least something wrong. Something is wrong, and it's the attitude here.
There are certain tells that you know someone is lying about this. This is one of them.
By way of example, because I guess this is what schools do now, or maybe just my daughter's old school, "Please walk away" was the prescribed phrase kids were told to use when another kid was bothering them. Sounds polite right? Your inner monologue reading that probably made it sound as nice as can be, yeah?
Yeah, that's now how the kids say it. They've found a way to pour as much passive aggression, or even overt aggression, into that polite phrase as possible. It became a universal means of taunting. Get up in another kid's business who was quietly doing their work, and start chanting it at them in that shitty sing song way that comes so naturally to kids.
If you actually watched the video, you'd know how Good was saying "I'm not mad at you" was not at all matching the blank page reading of the words. Nor were her actual actions consistent with it, nor were the goads and taunts of her wife. And the fact the left is falling back on the same defense of their shitty behavior as a pack of feral 6 year olds is concerning to say the least. "But she said 'I'm not mad at you'! This is unfair!"
It reminds me of other protests actions I've seen, with crowds of antifa beating people senseless while shouting "nonviolence". Or punching people in the face doing nothing while screaming "I'm being attacked!" I don't know if the cognitive dissonance created by them saying the exact opposite of what they are doing is the point. Or if it's purely to enable liars like you (or maybe you are just repeating the lies you've been told, you are a liar by proxy. I'm not mad at you), to say with a straight face "The crowd was chanting 'nonviolence' as police fired tear gas canisters and waded into the crowd with riot gear".
Anyways, this whole screed is pack of half truths, lies of omission, and naked emotional pleading. I'd rather have a country, thanks.
I mean, they would, had they not been such a heroic effort on the part of the electorate voting for a guy explicitly running on promising to do so. Most establishment Republicans denounced it, along with mainstream Republican media organizations.
I don't know if they still thought there was some value in trying to be perceived as "fairly calling balls and strikes" or if they are addicted to losing, or if they really are controlled opposition. But rest assured, the only reason that happened is because a possibly crazy person (and I say that affectionately) won a historical electoral victory with that as a part of his public platform, to the consternation and finger wagging of nearly everyone with fake PTSD from Jan 6th.
And in another historical first, he actually did what he promised on the campaign trail. Which the political class cried was somehow "corrupt". What you are supposed to do is promise to do things and then not do them! Anything less is immoral!
Do you believe your in-laws literally want you dead and your daughter transed?
No, but they literally keep voting for local politicians who have that as their party platform. They just... I donno, refuse to grapple with that part of things.
Well yes. Thats another reason i hate my enemies. They don't even have the descency to admit it and have a fair fight. Its just gas lighting about their naked aggression 24/7.
My gut says this is solidly in the category of didn’t try to kill but had zero concern about the officers safety. In many cases that ends up getting people killed.
Also I believe meets the definition of depraved-indifferent murder, in jurisdictions with such a thing. It just feels like that meme, with "I didn't mean to kill him, I just didn't care" and someone responding "That's worse. You know that's worse, right?"
he's unlucky at best
Luck has nothing to do with it. Democrats are telling their voters to do this.. And their PD's and DA's broadly let them get away with it too.
Is it your genuine sincere belief that every single person identified as being "on the left" is an evil liar? That it's literally impossible for anyone to be a Democrat or a liberal and sincere and well-intentioned?
I think they do evil. I think at this point to be a Democrat is to be deeply committed to doing evil. The hills Democrats have chosen to die on (castrating children, giving billions in fraud to immigrants of questionable legality, forcing people to take experimental medications, mass censorship) are virtually unrecognizable from the Democrats of 30 years ago. All the good ones left the party and joined the Republican ticket. Which is probably why so many high ranking positions in Trump's administration got filled with former Democrats (RFK Jr, Tulsi).
I have in laws who are deeply committed Democrats, deeply committed to destroying the country. They don't think of it that way. They are hopelessly, and willfully, ignorant of the consequences of their policies. If "Evil" had a version of "without intent" like manslaughter, they'd be that. All the same...
If we allowed some of those anti-MAGA posters who wander in to post like you do, would you be okay with that, or are you explicitly advocating we make the Motte a "leftists fuck-off" space?
If they were honest. I only care about honesty. They may view me as evil, for caring about my heritage, and wanting it to continue to exist. For not wanting billions of 3rd worlders enshittifying my homeland. For the very fact that my ancestors conquered this nation in the first place. And these are the exact reasons these differences can only be sorted out finally. I cannot exist in their world, and they cannot exist in mine. We are mutually evil to one another. I find their morality an abhorrent inversion of proper morals, and they feel the same. I can recognize this however, and accept that it's all over now but the violence. We cannot coexist.
But only if they are honest. If they stroll in here like Darwin of yore, playing Arguments as Soldiers, refusing to be pinned down, refusing to ever admit what the negative space around their rhetoric is gesturing towards, fuck em.
Which goes straight to it, and you see this over and over and over again. The leftist always calibrates their speech towards maximum fog of war. Among their own it's "Yes, I want to destroy the white race." but then in public it's "Oh why can't we have sympathy for the 65 IQ serial rapist an NGO imported from Africa? He just needs more restorative justice. That 3 year old probably won't even remember what happened to it." Which also goes straight to why LibsOfTiktok went so viral. These people just put all that nonsense out there, under their real ass names, employment in bio, and thought they were the victims when people outside their bubble saw it. Because, like Hillary Clinton famously said, sometimes you have two sets of opinions, a public set and a private set. It was an invasion of privacy to see their private opinions... even when they posted them publicly.
Yes, this is what happens when "My outgroup is evil" is straight up not allowed. When you can't just go "Well, they've lied about literally everything the last 15 years of my life... so I'm just going to assume the worst about them this time."
Obviously every narrative about this shooting from the left was going to be a lie. Did we already forget the cloud of bullshit they kicked up attempting to claim the Kirk shooter was MAGA? The weeks people spent here giving time to lies that were obvious immediately, irrefutable days later, and still trying to be "charitable" to obvious liars wondering in here weeks later from new accounts to discuss if Kirk's shooter was actually MAGA.
I'm reminded, ironically, of one of Sam Harris' criticisms of Donald Trump. Which is that, if he tells 1000 lies, just completely thoughtlessly, maybe 10 seconds per lie, and it takes you 2 hours to disprove each one... Donald Trump still wins because he wasted minutes of his life on the effort and you wasted days if not weeks or months.
So this is me weighing in finally. I don't understand why anybody even entertained a leftist narrative when the obvious reality is that this woman chose every step of this encounter, and fucked around and found out. She was not innocent, confused, wrong place wrong time, panicked, any of it. She's a brainwashed lesbian activist who thought she could run down an ICE agent because she's on the right side of history and Democrats have been telling her she can for years now. She doesn't deserve charity, the people creating fog of war do not deserve charity, evil actually exists no matter how much you claim it's against the rules to discuss.
To say nothing of Tim Walz having every appearance of being willing to cross the Rubicon because the Feds are finally going after his fraud kickbacks. Which is rich after having been beat over the head with "Insurrectionist" for 4 years.
There are no offramps or political solutions. It's between you, your God and your conscience your level of involvement in what's coming. I pray that keeping your head in the sand works out for most of you.
Man, don't ping me on this. There is nothing I can say that won't get me banned!
I kid, I kid.
Kind of.
It does bring me comfort though that I no longer need to say the things that will get me banned. You know.
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I can only give this advice, and this is buried deep enough, and so few people will see it, I'm going to drag out some real-ish numbers.
Last year I paid over $36,000 in taxes. I saved less than $8000 post taxes, and the government shutdown drove the company I worked for out of business. I have an offer on the table already, and maybe a better one coming soon, fingers crossed. So you know, I'll be alright. Just sayin' though.
Over the course of my life, because I've kept meticulous notes, I've saved about $165,000. That's about 20 years of post-tax savings. Some years were better, some years were terrible. My best year I saved about $32,000 (that was a mad dash year). My worst year I only saved about $2,500.
The year I bought my house, I put down nearly everything I had that wasn't in my 401k, brokerage or crypto. I think it was nearly half of everything I had liquid. It was probably the single scariest financial decision I ever made in my life.
That was almost 5 years ago now. I'm in my 40's now. My wife just turned 40. My accounts have done tremendously well. The balance barely reflects the amounts I mentioned up above. It's borderline "Fuck you" money. It also bares little resemblance to my income which continues to just barely cover my essentials, plus one emergency per year, plus a little net savings. I consider myself profoundly lucky I found not just one but two 10x or more investments. In another life I'd have 1/10th of what I actually do.
But we still lost out on our youth. We're having one last kid. That makes a grand total of two, and this last one is a squeaker. For years my heart broke that I aged out of having as many kids as I wanted, while I was struggling to achieve the material necessities I felt I needed to do right by them. I still don't have as many kids as I wanted, but I suppose two will have to suffice.
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