ArjinFerman
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ArjinFerman
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3hr ago
The public does want something done, but balks if it's visibly violent or leads to deaths. So 1 and 2 are out.
I'd like to see some evidence that this is an organic property of "the public", rather than a media enviroent imposed top-down. Again it would be a bit odd if there reaction to it would be greater than the reaction to the rape gang scandal.
how do you get them on the planes, how do you make the planes carry them
The same way you do with every deported individual.
and how do you make the destination let the planes land / take them off the planes?
In the case of Afghans, the Taliban is perfectly happy to take their people back, it's the western governments that don't want to do it.
ArjinFerman
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11hr ago
Come on, you know it’s not that easy. I have no love for our current government but the Afghans are coming of their own accord.
They're coming "on their own accord" because they know they will be welcomed by the government.
The general public won’t stand for 1 and 2
If the general public can tolerate how the rape gangs were being handled, surely they can handle either of these two. At the very least it's worth a try.
the left and half the right won’t stand for 3
What's the logic here? Too expensive?
Also what happened to "send them back directly where they came from. Don't ask any questions, don't bother with process, just send them back"? There's no way a plane ticket costs more than these hotels.
ArjinFerman
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1d ago
@RandomRanger's gloss was highly misleading: he made it sound as if it had been established beyond reasonable doubt
Given that the accusation is based on video evidence I think his portrayal of it is fairly accurate.
the investigation is still ongoing,
Again, anyone can deny an accusation. The people inviting him to their shows can claim he's innocent indefinitely.
and far from being widely admired, the soldier claims he decided to break his anonymity after being publicly shamed and criticised by an Israeli woman for what he allegedly did.
I'm not following. He is widely admired. He is being invited to TV shows and is being treated as a celebrity. The specific actions he is accused of (rather than his general conduct under the assumption of his innocence) are being explicitly defended by Israeli representatives. There are also other people who are criticizing him, but that does not detract from the large swathes of people circling the wagons around him.
The Criterion of Embarrassment is mostly used for Biblical apologetics to justify believing in the Crucifixion. It has very limited usefulness elsewhere; it's not some kind of general rule that historians use to evaluate the plausibility of historical narratives.
I'm pretty sure it is. In fact I'm pretty sure the biblical use is just a specific instantiation of a more general historical use. If one court's historian says "we really kicked their asses that day!", you have no way of telling whether they're bragging, coping, or of it even happened, but if that entry is corroborated by the other court's historian saying "damn, we sure got our asses whooped that day", it's likely the original statement was accurate.
ArjinFerman
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1d ago
All depends on the dose and your tolerance. i got high precisely once in my life and refuse to touch the stuff based on that experience. It would never occur to me to drive in the state I was in.
Alcohol, on the other hand, as long as you didn't drink too much, seems relatively safe. I think there was even a Mythbuster's episode when they were comparing it to driving while sleep deprived, and the latter can easily be more dangerous.
ArjinFerman
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3d ago
Had a rough week at work, so no tinkering for me.
How have you been doing @Southkraut?
ArjinFerman
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3d ago
They would be, if EHCers were actual human capital, that happened to be elite. Sadly they're not. LKY is a basic right-wing authoritarian, and like I said, if EHCers want to claim him they better stop squirming at the policies that make his model even possible. As it stands, it looks like a desperate bid of a bunch of teacher's pets to look edgy,
ArjinFerman
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3d ago
"Known to" does a lot of heavy lifting, because you can always deny the accusation, and hide behind "it's just an allegation", but sources for claim are not hard to find.
ArjinFerman
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3d ago
It's trickier then you'd think, particularly if you're using Apple hardware.
ArjinFerman
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3d ago
He kinda did by quoting the parliamentarian in question. You think the rapist being invited to a TV show is so extraordinary and inflammatory? Or that some people might have the same opinions as an elected representative?
ArjinFerman
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4d ago
should you follow them around with a sign that says 'you are wrong', and constantly wave it in front of them?
You mean like with the flags they're covering the entire cities with, the marketing materials and children's cartoons with mastectomy scars, and school curricula with gender ideology?
I do not condone these.
I appreciate the sentiment, but the argument was that contrary to your claim that trans people are the oppressed minority who are just trying to lay the controversy to rest, and are being fallowed around and harassed, they are actually the oppressor minority following people around and harassing them.
Some people identify very strongly with their biological sex, and in that hypothetical, would be very motivated to restore it; these people have a gender identity that aligns with their biological sex.
Like I said, given the lack of evidence, or even a coherent definition, I have no reason to believe that, any more than I do people who claim they engage in recreational Astral Travel.
Some of us don't consider Minority Report or Psycho Pass to be an aspirational ideal.
Being told to go to the other bathroom is hardly belongs to the same category as getting sent to mandatory therapy because your hue was a bit too cloudy today.
Offer accepted. Gender neutral WCs for everyone!
Well, then you'll have to reformulate all the arguments we've been through. Why are we even redefining "man" and "woman" to take "gender identity" into account now? It doesn't matter, there's no segregation.
I mean that it is not a single definition.
'Biologically female' can refer to
Right, so that's "the" vs. "a", the former implying there's a single definition, while the latter implies there are many. Also why are you bringing up "biologically female" here? We were talking about "woman". You said that for some purposes like sports, "woman" could be defined to not include trans women, and you said that it would be compromise. I said if something is a compromise, then it's not a definition. A definition is used to communicate concepts, so that you can later settle through discussion, on whatever set of social rules you deem reasonable. Using definitions to predetermine a conclusion doesn't strike me as a fair way of approaching a conversation.
WRT human beings, 'female' is the adjectival form of 'woman'; using it as a noun is rather impolite.
Now, hold on there. I was specifically told in many conversations with people who believe in "gender identity" that "man" / "woman" are the terms for gender, and "male" / "female" are the words for sex. This would be consistent with the usage of "male" / "female" for other life forms on this planet. Also, demanding that I accept your proposed changed to the definition of "woman" while preventing me from using "female" to refer to sex is a blatant double standard. If I can accept your definition of "woman", you can accept my definition of "female" is not impolite.
This is just starting to look like you're trying to prevent me from arguing for my ideas, rather than honestly trying to come to an understanding.
thus 'genetically female' excluding both trans-women and those with androgen insensitivity syndrome
That's just "female". There's no reason to specify "genetically", because it is understood it's our genes that determine our sex.
It should be enough to demonstrate that the proposed changes are an improvement over the status quo.
If you're already changing something, you might as well make sure you won't have to do it again soon, because it turned out that someone else's idea was even better.
But also: you haven't even cleared the "better than the status quo" standard.
If it has been working perfectly well, yes, but usually when people demand change, it's because the previous ways weren't working for them.
That's not necessarily true. It's been a common pattern in the Social Justice movement to demand change, not because the new way of doing things would work better for them, but because they wanted to take control of the thing. The people who made the all-female Ghostbusters didn't do so because the old ones weren't working for them, and judging by the new one's popularity, it didn't work for them either.
...which not everyone has
You said you don't know how to enforce bathroom segregation without resorting to genital checks, my explanation should be sufficient. Yes, it would require certain states to reform how they do their IDs, but it definitely is possible.
and doesn't expect to need a special document just to empty her bladder in a red state.
In most cases she wouldn't need that. Like I said, on first pass it would work on an honor system, the ID would only be used to resolve disputes.
ArjinFerman
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4d ago
Recently-ish, a bunch of Elite Human Capitals started acting like he's Their Guy.
The amount of Singaporean life that is controlled by the state is much higher than the western right-wingers who stan the place for the strong law enforcement and lack of redistribution would accept.
Maybe it's some other right-wingers you're talking about, but it all looks alright to me, mate.
If anything it's the neoliberals who seem like LARPers to me. They're all like "look at all the meritocracy and race-mixing", but have no stomach for the death penalty and corporal punishment. Like please, the same people who pearl-clutch over Bukele want to play Lee Kuan Yew stans?
Do we think he's really so wrecked by 'Trump Derangement Syndrome' that he'd flush his whole ideology down the toilet and humiliate himself just to stick it to Trump?
I think this war is a terrible mistake, so I'm pretty sympathetic to the thesis you're putting forward, but I consider myself unqualified to tell how well it's going, and with that in mind I'd go with: yes. All these neocons suddenly turning into doves strikes me as a particularly bad case of sour grapes, they're salty because they're not the ones who get to do it.
Would he "flush his whole ideology"? I don't see why not, a few years later they can flush what he's saying now - see also, as you pointed out yourself, his description of the Iraq war.
ArjinFerman
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6d ago
I can't help but notice that it's never people on the receiving end of these tactics that make these sort of arguments, only people like watching it being done to others. For the good of the forum, of course.
ArjinFerman
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6d ago
Also, sigh, just to put this to rest so we don't have to hear about it forever: are you Darwin?
Just to wanted to pre-register: I'm pretty sure he isn't. Similar tactics, but different style.
If society were built to tell anyone who believed themself capable of astral projection, constantly, day-in, day-out, "You aren't really capable of astral projection, that isn't a thing, you are Delusional and Wrong.", and never let the matter rest, I think that that would justify 'demanding a sweeping reform of society'.
a) I don't see how. People are perfectly within their rights to tell anyone day-in, day-out that they are delusional and wrong. Christians, vax-skeptics, climate change deniers, opponents of Critical Race Theory, and indeed people with gender critical views... take your pick, people are being told their beliefs are delusional and wrong, and as far as I can tell, that's exactly the way things should be.
b) Please do go on and tell me how the people who're draping entire cities in their flags, inserting mastectomy scars into marketing materials and children's cartoons, adding genderwang into school curricula, getting people fired from jobs, and terrorizing venues into cancelling events, are that one's being followed around, and who just want to let the matter rest.
If you, as a result of some preternatural phenomenon, woke up to-morrow in a body of the opposite biological sex, how motivated would you be to reverse the change?
Not at all.
Precisely what benefits are those, and why ought we not extend them to identity!men?
The benefits vary, anything from an earlier retirement age, lower physical test requirements, scholarships, carveouts for seats on various boards. Rather than extending them to men, I'd be in favor of removing them from women.
Another benefit is safety from people of the male sex, who are disproportionately more dangerous. You can't extend that to men, because we've found no way to as easily and accurately corral the individuals, as separating males from females does.
That depends on whether he is harming anyone with the latitude given him.
He'd be doing the exact same thing your examplary trans woman would be doing, except twirling his mustache villainously as he does so.
I was referring to the oft-invoked spectre of 'cis-man claims to be trans-woman, goes into women's toilet, does Harvey Weinstein impression', which is equally bad if the perpetrator is a cis-woman.
Yeah, but females are far less likely to engage in that sort of behavior, which is one of the reasons we give them their own spaces.
And? If they aren't harming anyone....
The only way this argument makes sense is if you are arguing for abolishing segregation. It makes no sense in the context of keeping segregation, but allowing "trans women" in. And if you're in favor of desegregation, then there's no need to modify the definition of "woman" to begin with.
It's not a definition.
There are multiple pairs of categories into which human beings can be divided
Don't you mean it's not the definition? Either way, it's not a definition either, and that's my point. Like I said, the point of definitions is communicate concepts between people, not to pre-define the kind of categorization schemas you'd prefer for people to use. Your categorization schema may be better than mine, but you have to provide an argument for it being so, and to do that, we need some definitions for the basic concepts we are discussing. Trying to tell me we should use your categorization schema without defining these concepts is absurd.
...and yet demands that they buy into its beliefs.
I see no reason why it is more justified for the latter group to demand assent to their beliefs by the former than vice versa
And who is demanding assent to their beliefs? Go ahead and believe in "gender identity". If you want to change the definition of "woman", I can step over that and use another word, like "female" for the concept I'm referring to. You're free to believe what you want, and I'm still making the argument I wanted to.
'it's always been this way' strikes me as a very flimsy premise, given how many times it has been used to support things which are now widely considered indefensible.
The possibility space for different ways of doing things is nearly infinite, so if you want to change things, you need to show how your way is better than all the other possible ways. On the other hand "it's been working fine all this time" is a perfectly valid reason for keeping things the way they are, because change requires energy, and that energy could be spent on more important things.
That would last about five minutes before a woman with PCOS or endometriosis and a Maine or Minnesota driver license
...which is why I explicitly postulated a sex-based marker.
ArjinFerman
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8d ago
Just because no super genius on an abandoned island can build a plane by themselves
They also can't build it in certain densely populated, resource-rich, parts of the world either.
doesn't erase their immense and overwhelming power when given opportunities. Society works by depending on each other
Yes, that's my argument. You'll note that at no point have I denied their contribution, literally said "no amount of Jensen Huangs, can compensate for the social erosion caused by mass immigration from incompatible cultures" , a point which you are deliberately avoiding now.
It's obviously not actually that simple,but valuation is the easy quick way to determine a person's value to society. What Huang has created is worth trillions of dollars. Because you can earn a billion dollars if you do things that people really really want.
You'll again note that at no point have I denied Huang's contribution to society. What I did deny was his ability to compensate for mass migration from incompatible cultures. The argument for him possessing that ability clearly rests on it being that simple.
You're right, unfortunately despite the grinder culture selection effect of immigration, it's not enough to overcome the growing problem of victimhood natives who instead of embracing freedom and opportunity.
- Doctor, I think I have a cold.
- Here, have some arsenic. Feel any better?
- No, I feel a lot worse...
- You're right, unfortunately despite the healing effect of arsenic, it's not enough to overcome the growing common cold infection in your body...
There's absolutely no reason to believe the "grinder culture" culture of (some) immigrants in any way positively contributes to hosts cultures. On the other hand, the part of the native culture that is the most into victimhood narratives is also the most fanatically pro-immigration.
ArjinFerman
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8d ago
Western countries didn't exactly vote against mass immigration either
And? If the idea is that our rulers get to do whatever they want, even if their constituents are against it because "neener neener, you didn't vote hard enough" (even when they clearly did - see the policies under the "fascist" governments of Italy, Poland, or the recent DIGNIDAD Act), then it's time to stop pretending "democracy" as a concept has any substance to it at all.
ArjinFerman
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8d ago
The tower of Babel cannot be completed. Not by humans.
Careful now, for some of these people your terms are acceptable.
ArjinFerman
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8d ago
You can not replace what he has created (5.4 trillion dollar valuation of Nvidia!) with your average Joe, it is not possible.
Again, Jensen Huang alone is so massively valuable that even hundreds of thousands (probably even millions) of net negative parasites would be cancelled out.
Not really. It's true no amount of average Joe's can replace a Jensen Huang, but the truth is he depends on them as much as they depend on him. This is trivially observable by the fact that none of these people are able to "cancel out" impoverished populations of other countries, and have to go to the US for their success.
It's also telling you measure his contribution by the valuation of his company, which is an absurd thing to do. In the mind of a valuation appreciator, all you have to do is subtract government expenditures going to the net negative parasites from the company valuation, and as long as the bottom line is in the black,you're good! The reality is that just like no amount of average Joes can compensate for Jensen Huang, even if you get enough of them that their total contributions exceed $5.4 trillion, no amount of Jensen Huangs, and no amount of money transferred by the government, can compensate for the social erosion caused by mass immigration from incompatible cultures.
Yes, and part of that cultural change is a culture that values being smarter and harder working than what we currently have. A culture of grinders and geniuses.
That's not the cultural change that's happening anywhere in the west. We are constantly being pushed to erode our standards, and a significant justification for that is the push for greater "diversity" necessitated by mass migration.
ArjinFerman
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9d ago
Well, they're closer to it, so they have a better view, and their statements are the best data I have.
That just means the best data you have to support the existence of gender identity roughly rivals the data we have to support astral projection. It's not skin off my nose if you want to believe in it, but if you're demanding a sweeping reform of society, I think you need to back your demands with something better.
Then whence the concern about a man claiming to be a trans-woman 'being given free rein', if he is not doing anything wrong with the acceptance given to him?
I just meant that he'd be allowed to take advantage of any benefits stemming from "identifying as a woman". If you don't see anything wrong with that, what exactly has Mr. Mustache Twirling Villain done wrong in the exact same situation?
We don't, or at least shouldn't, tolerate cis-women harassing other cis-women in the restroom; thus, if trans-women aren't allowed to do anything cis-women aren't, then trans-women, or cis-men claiming to be such, are not being given 'free rein' to harm anyone.
a) Telling someone they're supposed to use the other bathroom is not harassment.
b) I don't recall phrasing "free rein" in terms of harm. I just meant there'd be no barriers to entering into women's spaces.
Those are circumstances under which I would compromise from the pro-trans maximalist position.
If it's a compromise then it's not a definition. The point of a definition is to communicate a concept between different people, so that they can reason about it and debate it. It sounds like rather than trying to do that, you are first trying to reach a specific goal, and are tailoring the "definition" to how far you think you can get.
"For most purposes" means that some contexts might call for a different definition.
Oh, fair enough, the conversation is going long enough that I forgot that.
Other than being fairer to certain people who, to be honest, are having a terrible enough time of it already.
("Other than that, Mrs Lincoln, how was the play?")
I don't think it would make it fairer to them in any way, or how that they're having a terrible time when all of society is not forced to buy into their belief system.
Are there trans activists who have rejected offers of 'gender-neutral bathrooms for everybody, as long as the wash their hands'?
No one I ever talked about responded with "oh, that sounds lovely, actually" when I made that argument, and I'd say that the burden is on the trans activists to initiate the conversation with that demand, if they want to use the "civil rights" argument.
I don't know how else one would enforce the bathroom bills being proposed in the red states, given the overlap between, at a minimum, the most female-presenting quintile of trans-women and the least female-presenting quintile of cis-women.
a) I notice you're showing any examples of Karens demanding genital checks, or denying my point that no Karen has ever actually done so, in any way, thus proving this is a pro-trans shibboleth.
b) An honor system + resolving corner cases with government ID's with sex-based markers, sounds like more than enough to me.
ArjinFerman
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9d ago
The link seems dead.
ArjinFerman
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10d ago
The dynamic background is now complete. When you return the an old background cell, it's texture is loaded back to the GPU, and any further bugs are rendered to it where you last left it off. There's a bit of a framerate drop when the textures are reloaded and shifted around, but I think it should be tolerable after I play around with amortizing them across more frames later. Other than that, I fixed a bug that caused the gun to periodically stop firing.
Up next: optimizing the bullet simulation as described here. Once that's done, I'll work on adding new weapon types.
How have you been doing @Southkraut?
If Britain didn't make their displeasure with France known, why would it go the other way around? If the French are so displeased, they can stop letting these people into France to begin with.
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