hydroacetylene
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hydroacetylene
5d ago
'White skin bad, brown skin good' took over the democrats+TDS.
hydroacetylene
5d ago
No, but he can put national guard there practically indefinitely. In any case the LAPD is presumably, like most police forces, very pro-Trump and moderately conservative even if the city that pays them definitely isn't. Police are a different stratum these days in large part because of the dysfunction of the social classes who would see policing as an attractive gig making those people unsuitable as cops. Young men get rejected from the police force for marijuana and minor wouldn't-even-be-noticed-otherwise crimes(duh) but also for gambling debt(a big, growing problem among the communities police recruit from most heavily). It's also not a super popular profession with big chunks of the public.
The police are their own social stratum and they protect their own. The actual sympathies of the LAPD aren't the issue, because those are mostly pro-Trump(and the rest are taking bribes). The civilian political leadership is Trump's obstacle.
hydroacetylene
5d ago
My point was that any identity which can totalise will absorb literally all common symbols, of which the rainbow is one(literally every culture has given it a special meaning- the pagans thought it was a bridge for the gods to access the world, Christians think it’s a sign of God’s mercy, LGBT thinks it’s about diversity of deviant sexualities, South Africans think it’s about multiple races working together in harmony, etc etc), and this is unconnected to general cultural design trends.
hydroacetylene
5d ago
See my reply to stefferi
hydroacetylene
5d ago
I’m willing to believe it. My point was to draw attention to the totalizing nature of LGBT ideology(down to cradle members and converts) through comparison to Christianity.
hydroacetylene
5d ago
Look, I made this point in last week’s thread- people yearn for totalisation. LGBT co-opted the rainbow from God’s promise not to destroy the world again, they co-opted sacred heart month, etc, etc, because that’s just what they do.
Everything getting greyer is less to do with gay activists and more to do with society, in general, not loving bright colors everywhere. I blame autism increasing, but it could also just be fashion trends- the generation for whom being able to make everything bright colours was a novelty is still dying.
hydroacetylene
5d ago
This is aimed at small businesses serving businesses owned by Indians, who are notorious for stiffing their vendors on the bill.
hydroacetylene
5d ago
Have you tried ‘quirky’ museums? The Bigfoot museum is unlikely to say anything true, but it will say much interesting.
hydroacetylene
6d ago
DeSantisism is right-populist substance but without the reality-TV sideshows Trump generates, and there is no appetite for it among Red tribers in the country.
No, Desantis is incredibly popular. He just ran a bad campaign.
hydroacetylene
6d ago
I agree that Noem and Hawley would be dumb out of left field picks, but Trump is known for those and they’re extremely plausible as dumb out of left field picks.
In a scenario where Trump doesn’t have a clear favorite, I think you’re sleeping on Abbott’s depth and breadth of support within the party nomenklatura(nationally as well as in Texas) and Desantis’s popularity with the base. In a scenario where Trump does, it’s at least as likely to be Rubio as Vance- they’re both inner-circle loyalists, after all. Cruz I can only see if Trump doesn’t make an endorsement and the Republican base is more interested in hardline conservatism.
hydroacetylene
6d ago
Off the top of my head- you're leaving out Desantis, Hawley, Abbott, Cruz, Youngkin, Rubio, and Noem as conventional presidential candidates who could easily win over Trump's anointment.
hydroacetylene
6d ago
I haven’t and I don’t know what I would use it for.
hydroacetylene
6d ago
It falls in the same category of ‘not something they can do much about’ as housing wealth.
hydroacetylene
6d ago
Louisiana's one drop rule never applied that strictly because a large portion of the French speaking white population had a black ancestor somewhere in the family tree, even if you couldn't tell by looking. IIRC the pope identifies as partially creole, which is a catch all term for french-y and not Cajun, but usually is a code word for southern Louisiana black, so it's even more complicated.
But TL;DR is that in 1900 he'd have ridden in the whites section of the train.
hydroacetylene
6d ago
Americans understand the one drop rule makes Meghan Markle black, but not the pope. But race-as-a-spectrum is actually literally arbitrary; there are cultures which see mulattos as not-black. There are cultures which see whiteness as a one drop rule. The same is not true for man and woman.
hydroacetylene
6d ago
I know several people who belong to 'christian health sharing ministries' in lieu of insurance because they can't stomach paying for birth control with their premiums.
hydroacetylene
6d ago
'Only a handful' is not accurate. The median social conservative believes people with a position of social trust(eg teachers, cops, clergy) shouldn't be allowed to transition, that the fringes who transition should be required to use same-sex restrooms and not ones matching their gender identity(and that if it is a safety issue for FTM's to use the men's then they shouldn't have transitioned), and that using preferred pronouns is a lie. They would refuse to allow their son to wear dresses or use a female name(tolerance for gender bending the other way is typically higher just because gender roles are loosey-goosier).
More to the point, 'homosexuality among consenting adults should be explicitly illegal and a serious crime' still has just-below-20% support in the American public, and most of them believe it should be punishable by death. We can presume that the 15% or so of people who think homosexuals should be hanged also believe gender transition should be illegal. That is a minority, but not a handful.
hydroacetylene
6d ago
I notice that for all your discussion of how obvious it is, you did not, yourself, say what a woman is.
hydroacetylene
6d ago
How would you explain to an autistic teenage boy the differences between boy people and girl people? In a way that provides useful guidance and doesn't make T seem like a normal thing for any boy who isn't obsessed with sports? In a way that let's them successfully navigate the differences?
The way the Masai tribesmen in What is a Woman? do. Of course progressives can't do that. I never said they could. Just that it is a solved problem. Just like 'strong female characters who actually act like women' was a solved problem... in the BC days(that is, after all, what Hera/Juno is). But woke doesn't want that. Woke is basically progressivism as a totalizing identity.
I think totalizing identity is key here. Scott touches on it a few times, where he talks about what progressive attitudes are identities or not- the post where he said something like 'John and Jane are united by their shared environmentalism, OK, pretty normal, John and Jane are united by their shared support for gun control, pretty weird'. The DR touches on it where it goes on and on about 'hollowing out your religion and wearing it as a skinsuit'. Themotte talks about it with progressivism as a religion. But I think 'gay rites are civil rites' is the most head on treatment. I think back to my childhood- we learned about Elizabeth Ann Seton and Our Lady of Guadalupe, and about how Jesus treated women equally(unlike those saracens America is at war with). In more secular contexts we learned, risibly, that native American religions were proto-Christianity- they believed in 'the great spirit' and lots of them had Jesus analogues(TTBMK, both of those claims are ludicrously false). This very much fit the needs of the church state alliance of 2002. But there is a limit to how much Christianity can accommodate. Woke doesn't have that, or at least it doesn't have to. But obviously there's no woke pope, no woke council of Nicea. There's no woke bible. In analogues to different traditions there's equally no woke Sharia law, no woke imamate, no woke talmud, no woke temples or dalai lama, no woke oracle of delphi. The civil rites religion as a state religion fits the needs of a total state very well. And when you totalize it, some of the prescriptions- like gender equality even if it entails embracing some fictions that are gonna be a rough fit- get taken too far.
People yearn for a totalizing identity. It's comforting for normies to be told what to do, how to think, what each day is for, how to interact with whom. It soothes a certain personality type to have the progressive version of apostolic Christianity instead of mere progressivism; woke has saints and a special calendar and observances of near-liturgical set rules. It has moral theology, but not in the autistic legalism of other Abrahamic religions. It has a special priest class which is made, not born. It prides itself on better treatment of women. It claims to be the one truth, and formal adherence is the lion's share of being a good person(not too long ago, I listened to a homily by an SSPX priest who explained that formally practicing traditional Catholicism was just being a good person- almost identical in mentality to 'it's called just being a decent person'. If I find it on youtube I will copy the link over.).
hydroacetylene
7d ago
That’s fine, but throwing a hissy fit about activating the national guard and then letting the feds commandeer his troops anyways makes him look like a pussy.
In the Texas border standoff Greg Abbott correctly calculated that the administration was too weak/indecisive to take over the army he’d assembled on the border and so he could continue taking over a core federal function while impeding the federal operation of the same. This made him look strong, because he got what he wanted. But Newsom won’t raise his own army, he won’t defy federalization orders, etc. He looks like he’s all bark, no bite- and already has that reputation.
hydroacetylene
7d ago
I would agree with that assessment.
hydroacetylene
7d ago
Newsom is going to avoid prosecution for siding with the protesters assaulting federal officers
I don’t think Newsom has actually done much- strongly worded notes in whatever direction are legal, and that’s basically all he did.
hydroacetylene
7d ago
Now that you mention it, the poor doing gig work(I suspect because they can't pass a drug test to obtain more stable incomes) as the private taxi for burritos is so on the nose that I wonder why the numerous and extremely loud modern-day socialists aren't loudly pointing it out.
I mean, literally I have no mental model of more than occasional doordash orderers. It's just so much cheaper to either buy groceries or, uh, go out to eat the regular way, and doordash gives a worse product due to the food being cold. With modern prepared meals you don't even have to be good at cooking, you can buy microwaveable stuff at Aldi/Walmart/Kroger. I get that sometimes you want to order lots of food instead of leaving the house, but that niche was already filled by pizza, and I guess a third party delivery app for catering orders made sense but lots of people seem to be using it for individual meals.
hydroacetylene
7d ago
Is this just an unfalsifiable assertion or is there actual evidence?
Read through the gospels. Read them slowly, meditatively. Use lectio divina on one of them. And while you're doing it, go to church. There are lots of them; the alien-ness is just a perception. And pray.
Christianity is not something which we shape to suit ourselves. It's something which changes us into the better. Don't worry about a fit, worry about keeping on because the spiritual life is a marathon and not a sprint.
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