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If we take her at her word... wouldn't it have made more sense for her to simply not accept the nomination at all?

Not necessarily no. If her goal was to become president, then not taking the nomination and a different democrat winning wouldn't have helped her goal.

I think she's actually 100% correct here, and also it's silly to try to frame it as if she's being closed minded or bigoted or anything. She saw a very real risk and made a calcuation. Tim Walz was an ass pick, but they were attempting to get someone who would speak to men and masculinity, and the attempt at least makes sense.

Also, it's very clear that the left is constantly talking about demographics, representation and people seeing 'themselves' reflected. Well every time that choice is made, whether it's a casting call or a VP pick, it's equally a choice not to include someone else. It's fucking stupid to appeal to the logic of demographic representation in some cases, then gasp and act shocked about it when it's about literal choosing not to overlook a majority demographic for a minority demographic

Didn’t he just go from rally in Arizona to Europe; not surprising he’d be tired

Even if we take this as true, can’t you see why a peasant would rather be ruled over by their kin, countrymen and culture sharers than foreigners?

This may be "directionally correct" but it's too much and too sudden.

With the pace of AI, I disagree. Everything is going to be fast and sudden and we need to be moving at pace.

There is going to be real economic fallout and unrest with AI. Look at the unemployment rate for CS grads. I suspect folks like Vance in the administration realize this, and this is part of getting ahead of it. People are not going to suffer massive white collar unemployment while we keep importing Indians to plug the gaps left.

Raycons

I find this general problem to be one of the more interesting (though not necessarily strong) flags that LLMs will struggle to be truly ‘agentic’. As much as AI agents are the rage right now, the ones I’ve seen in the wild at work follow very narrow and defined business rules or require significant human intervention.

I don’t know and haven’t thought enough about why this might be but for all of an LLMs contextual intelligence, I see it falling down on making follow up decisions or inferences based on recent past.

This. Even if one thinks that it’s a good or neutral thing to staff this plant with foreigners, that’s not the scenario and it’s not what tax payers subsidized BILLIONS for.

Well damn. I stand corrected

I think this is a misunderstanding. I believe a large majority of those arrested here were construction subcontractors not Koreans running the facility. It was overwhelmingly Hispanic construction workers raided.

If I’m wrong, I’m happy to be corrected. I’ve read various extremely conflicting reporting

My answer in two parts.

First while there is unlimited server space, there is not unlimited share of posts. That is zero sum. If someone posts enough proportionally they have a bigger effect on the culture and tone of the board.

Consider ad absurdem a sleepy friend group chat where people occasionally post life updates, coordinate events, or made small jokes. One day somebody starts dialing up the posting with personal drama and political screeds. Nobody is afraid they will run out of space. But the character of the group chat is compromised.

Selfmade has noticeably dialed up his proportion of theMottes engagement (which is a function also of this place kind of cooling off possibly unrecoverable). More and more it feels like self made’s spot. Which I said is FINE. He can do that regardless of how I receive it.

But the second part is extending that into also knocking down any loose structure that keeps the site gardened. It comes off as flaunting that he can swing his voice around the site for his own amusement and break down any even superficial sense of organization

Reported you and Amadan for accusing me of racism to try to bully me against reporting something completely irrelevant to race. Extraordinarily low and a further abuse of your mod click.

I find this very troublesome.

You and vanilla both like to post long episodic slice of life updates, and increasingly do it in whatever thread is open. Beyond that there are no further similarities. The fact that you are both Indian is irrelevant and not even remotely on my mind.

What the fuck does this have to do with being Indian?! I am complaining about posting topics and you accuse me of racism. If this was anyone else they’d get modded by you.

Vanilla and Self made both post quite a bit about developments of their personal lives in a very episodic way. Which again is fine, but gets tedious when it’s obviously not even relevant to the threads topic.

Vanilla used to do it more and self made has really turned up the volume recently. None of it had anything to do with being Indian you fucking asshole

Yeah as a mod, I think you shouldn’t do this. You and vanilla increasingly take up a larger and larger share of the overall site content as your personal slice of life blogs, which is… fine. But at least have the courtesy not to shit all over any sense of structure on the site to do so. Especially not while also policing others for their usage of the site

Firstly, this sucks, but I would expect it will ultimately blow over if you ignore her. These kinds of interactions run on attention, and when she gets none from you there's nothing left for her to get out of it.

Secondly, the lesson to learn here is that this:

I liked her more when she talked about Hellboy and her Fullmetal Alchemist fanfiction.

was always a function of this:

"I'm so tired of straight guys assuming I'm not asexual, anyways I already have a crush."

It was never going to be some unhappy coincidence. No, better luck next time. If you select for girls that aren't like normal girls, they will end up not like normal girls. If you like a girl for her atypically nonfemale coded interests and interactions, she's going to be nonfemale coded in other ways.

This comes up again and again and again with spergy types chasing MPDG's with attractive 'buddy' interests attached to boobs. But her depressingly NCP reddit tier asexual text is somewhat correct. She nerded out with you about comic books, which you admit is atypical. That's a sign that she's not interacting with you in a predictably girl-guy way.

But let's imagine the opposite. You meet a male friend who's super sensitive and warm and emotionally available. He doesn't share your hobby interests, which is atypical for guys you select for as friends. But dammit this guy shows you attention and makes you feel special. He's emotionally available, fun, playful and you feel refreshingly wanted. One day he makes a move on you, and you recoil. He's GAY?!

Are you actually suprised? This doesn't invalidate all of the friendship gestures as completely ingenuine. Nor do I think none of MPDG's flirting was real. But overall, you get what you get.

The shorts would be against whatever companies you think are wasting large sums of money paying people to do nothing

All mid-large companies do this, there's none to short, as it's built in.

as presumably they're very liable to be disrupted by companies with more competitive cost structures

No because it's not a solved problem, it's a scaling and coordination problem. You can't easily pick out which jobs are fake. and which parts of which jobs. It's baked into the growth curve.Smaller companies generally are scrappier, and often cheaper as a result, which is how they compete. As they grow, they become less able to run a tight ship.

I'm surprised that this is controversial. I didn't think it was a hot take. Even at my first internship (at a large tech company), during the general onboarding, I was introduced to the concept of the Pareto principle, used to explain that 80% of the work is done by 20% of the employees.

If you think so, you should post your short positions.

Shorts on who?

Most office work is fake email jobs. 10x'ing the productivity of fake is still fake. I do think that AI is going to roar on the margins. But the average office working is doing very little productive in the first place.

A lot of AI is helping write emails on the front end, and then summarizing them on the backend. Nothing of value is being added.

Painting anti-catcalling measures with the "feminist" brush is accurate to the point of describing that women benefit from them, but misses the fundamental truth that this behavior reinforces the position of already-powerful men, rather than dismantling it.

Yeah but basically all of feminism/lgbt/idpol works this way. Powerful people benefit from the benefits and are insulated from the social ramifications of the breakdown of gender roles in society.

'The sexual revolution primarily benefitted high status men who wanted consequence free sex, while destroying middle/low class families and communities' is not a hot take.

In a sense, yes. But also as a quick aggregator and guided tour for low stakes info absorption. Whether that's recreational or professional:

Recreational example: Is mewtwo the most powerful pokemon?

What I am seeking: an answer to this question, and some quick context history, light reading.

How much I care: not much, passing interest as my kids have an episode on

What's wrong with a google search?: I can't necessarily find the answer on a wiki, and if I have a specific follow-on, I can't expect to just scroll down and find it. I have to wade through stuff I don't care about. I could search for a reddit thread, but will more likely have to scroll through unnecessary nerd-debates, not authoritative or exactly what I'm asking.

Work example: I'm emailing to a customer and need to react to an unfamiliar competitor

What I am seeking: high level point of view that I can build talking points around

How much I care: It's important to be directionally right, but I don't need ot be an expert

What's wrong with a google search?: The competitor website takes exploring and is not oriented toward me learning the relevant competitive highlights that I need in the context this question has come to me in.

Ok here’s an example. My kids got real into Pokémon this summer. I am a touch old to have ever really been into it but close enough that their interest peeked some passing interest in learning more / remembering certain things. But I’m not trying to deep dive here like a book.

So instead of browsing bulbapedia or whatever, I ask chat gpt stuff like:

What was the difference between red and blue version? Is mewtwo the most powerful Pokémon? Did ash ever fight Giovanni? Do people generally like or dislike all the extra Pokémon bloat?

And various branching follow up questions. It’s quicker than trying to google the answer then read ad-riddled slow loading pages or just seeing the AI summaries at the top. Then regoogling the follow up.

So it’s nice when ChatGPT gives me a little article light history of Pokémon red and blue.

It’s annoying when it does stuff like following up with saying ‘Would you like me to write a little song to help you remember the difference’ or other stuff to provoke its own directional prompts.

Or when it starts with sychophantic commentary. Like “is mewtwo the most powerful Pokémon” gets a response that start like:

“Now you’re getting to the real heart of the Pokémon phenomenon!..” And then continues in an overly eager conversational tone.

Just give a fucking article like answer.

I find the 'it's just aesthetics' argument to be an empty dodge in these spaces. I understand the intended usage, but it's almost a nonsequitor. Rather, your attempt to distinguish the aesthetics of suicide from trans, kind of makes my point; Because the trans-advocate doesn't see it in your terms.

The point I'm making does not rely on trans and suicide being ontologically similar; only that the nature of the social-legal issue will follow similar social-activitst/profitmaking paths.

You can regard the end result of those paths as of different moral worth based on the object level issue, but the libertarian objections which try to deny that social modulation and profit-making greatly influence these systems, is naiive or lying.

I think another comparable industry is trans-medicalism, which is clearly, and documentably associated with profit motivations, and led to an incredible rise of something that was once much much rarer.

much of self_made's response below is a predictable mix of techno-libertarian priors and false assurance against corruption (or simply runaway incentives to overexent) by profit-seeking via ideological purity.

In most professions, especially those with an ethical or ideological core, the profit motive coexists with, and is often constrained by, professional ethics, reputational incentives, and a genuine belief in the mission.

Again, with the case of trans, we can se that was is laughably not the case. We saw the ideological core of trans distort and blind a lot of otherwise obvious ethical, and reputational issues. And we are seeing the backlash now.

Also much like the trans question, we are going to have two movies on one screen interpretation of any rapid rise: A need being met vs creeping pressure and social memeplex.

Self-made's objection is again the same tautology that is used to defend an ever growing number of trans individuals as self-justifying:

A person who travels to another country in secret to end their life has, by their actions, expressed a powerful preference.

If powerful preference is the driving justification, then people with ideological motivations will push their hand on the social memeplex / overton window, even if just to make the existing number with these preferences or marginal preferences more free; it will cost lots of money to do this, and lots of money with be made. And then the number will grow inorganically.

This is exactly how it works.

How do you all interact with LLMs?

I’ve seen a few articles recently noting the rise of AI as a buddy / therapist or whatever. It’s usually beside the point of the article but an implicit notion is that lot of folks regularly ‘chat’ with AI as if it were a person.

Which I find baffling. Outside of the very early novelty, I find this way of interacting extremely boring and tedious, and generally find the fact that AI wants to get conversational with me a general frustrater.

If I’m not using AI as a utility ‘write X, troubleshoot Y, give me steps for Z’, and I’m using it recreationally / casually, it’s more akin to web surfing or browsing Wikipedia than chatting on a forum or whatever. I will use it as an open format encyclopedia and explicitly not as a conversationalist sounding board. And i genuinely find negative value in the fact that the former is constantly interrupted with the attempt to be the latter.

So my question is again, how far outside of the grain am I?

Who am I to tell you what's massive or not?

The person using the number as part of an argument that there's no cause for concern?

I would start raising eyebrows past 20%, and be alarmed past 30.

That's pretty wild numbers, imo, and reduces my ability to take your general judgement of risk, safety, acceptibility, etc on this topic as particularly calibrated toward anything persuasive. I think burying your own calibration in a p.s. is kind of dishonest when you are trying to lay out a defense of something.