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2hr ago
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It'd be at least a second or two before the brain deoxygenated enough to cause unconsciousness, surely? I was with you up until that point.
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2hr ago
Asides from stupid teenagers, I'd wager that ~everyone who frequents those sites to see anything more graphic than bodycam footage are somehow mentally disturbed.
I will note that in the EEA everyone was basically fine with gore. It's the modern, intermediated society where the vast majority of people don't have to kill animals that is unnatural.
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23hr ago
And specifically stated as such by the people who coined all these terms.
Mind if I ask your source? I'm certainly well aware of SJ's extraordinary capacity for deliberate meme warfare; I would just appreciate receipts on this particular one.
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1d ago
Somebody who posted "the year is 2025 and we're unironically X" as a one-liner would almost certainly get modded regardless of the political valence of X.
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2d ago
Well, the guards did get caught, just not fully.
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3d ago
Is it "insanely illegal"? Remember that in the suicide hypothesis, sabotaging the monitoring isn't murder conspiracy with its fuckoff-huge sentence. They skated with no time, and even if they'd gotten caught red-handed my wild guess is that they'd have served under 2 years.
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3d ago
Did you read the link?
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3d ago
Furthermore, Epstein committing 'suicide' in the anti-suicide ward while the cameras were conveniently switched off is clear proof of some kind of paedophile-sex ring deeply embedded in the US government. The Q people were directionally correct.
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3d ago
@WhiningCoil this comment is a reply to a mod-hat comment by Amadan giving you a warning. You deserve the opportunity to read it.
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4d ago
· Edited 4d ago
Daniel Kokotajlo and the rest of the AI 2027 team are doing an AMA right now on ACX, in case any of you want to ask something. Ends half an hour from now.
NB: If you just want to yell "you're wrong" I'd recommend saying that at another time; the questions are coming in fast so I'm not sure they'll be able to answer everything.
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4d ago
I wouldn't consider it so. Also, my read on Steve is that he's not even trying to bait a response, just lash out at people he gets mad at. Could you maybe link me some examples of Steve trying to bait people?
@SteveAgain, to be clear, I don't actually hate you. I see too much of myself in you to hate you. With that said, "you must learn control". I'd suggest putting some kind of spacer into your post routine so that you have time to calm down before a post goes live, because it's specifically your angry snarling at people that's causing the problems.
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4d ago
Saya no Uta takes about 3 hours or so to read. Maybe more if you're a slower reader than I am, although probably not by much given the whole "voiced" thing.
I haven't played the versions with the sex scenes stripped out, but I'm not sure if they're fit for purpose; the sex scenes contain a large amount of character development and even a significant amount of the plot. I'd recommend a version with them left in if you're going to play at all. Related to this, it's a horror VN, and it needs a warning for actually being horrifying - I was 20 when I played it and I had a "wake up screaming" nightmare, although it's still #3 or #4 on my list of "best VNs" (I've played slightly over 50).
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4d ago
After all these sorts of comments you make are obvious trolling.
Um, no they're not. Trolling is deceptive posting in order to bait a response; Steve clearly does think that netstack's action was "a joke". I do not get "troll" vibes from him in general; he appears to be a sincere, very angry, very radical rightist.
Steve is a frequent flamer (i.e. someone who insults others). That is itself against the rules, but it's not the same thing as trolling.
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5d ago
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Is that a valid way to test your theory?
1994 is prior to SJ nucleation; I'd expect conservative names.
I do want to specify that SJ progressives are frequently six-foundationers who would prior to the 90s have become conservatives, and that I do think this has a lot to do with why SJ despises paedophiles. But that's innate traits that are largely genetic or from birth order, so this wouldn't go away if actual conservatives ceased to exist.
Also, I'm not sure if you missed my edit earlier, but I'm for the most part an unreconstructed 90s liberal; I actually am mostly on the pro-paedo, AoC-is-too-damned-high side of this issue, and I've been censured for this in SJ spaces.
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5d ago
Ah, now I understand better.
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5d ago
News editing just sucks. I think the idea is that nobody wants to read a news article with a bunch of legal citations, so we end up with headlines like “Elon Musk’s DOGE Delt Legal Blow by Federal Judge”, when the substantive legal issue is that their motion to change venue was denied.
There is an alternative, more cynical explanation, which is that news sites do not link to their sources out of fear that they'd then be competing for their readers with those sources.
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5d ago
Could you elucidate? I'm lost.
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5d ago
They involve teenage girls as well.
Remember that I'm talking about an "ick" from teenage girls, not an "ick" on behalf of teenage girls. It's not like mastectomies are being forced on unwilling teenage girls, after all, just given to willing teenage girls who are plausibly making bad decisions (and who do not themselves believe they are making bad decisions).
Was the pushback against pedo acceptance even driven by leftist normies, or was it a result of conservatives being stronger and better organized?
From my memories of SJ spaces, and from the way SJ works*, I feel extremely confident in saying it's the former.
*One of the most poisonous parts of SJ is that it considers those outside the movement to be hopelessly mired in false consciousness and thus incapable of having anything to contribute; this is exactly why it's so intransigent in the face of external opposition. As such, you don't see conservative ideas getting adopted by SJ; it kinda has to be independently rediscovered within the walled garden in order to be accepted there.
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5d ago
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Because the vanguard did try to push that particular door open, and they did refuse. Paedophile acceptance was part of the counterculture, but was kicked out of the coalition when SJ nucleated. This is an unusual fact pattern suggesting unusual forces at work; the about-face on nerds/aspies is the only other one I can point to. If I had to point to a suspect for the unusual force, it'd be innate "ick" responses of teenage girls.
EDIT: To be clear, I'm actually on the pro-paedo side of this fight, albeit not actually in favour of AoC abolition due to logistical concerns (in particular HIV necessitating sex ed).
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5d ago
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SALT/START seem like examples, albeit minor ones due to the difficulty of winning a nuclear war.
Also, I should note that a decent chunk of my P(~Doom) routes through WWIII removing AI as a thing-in-being-with-entrenched-interests.
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6d ago
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But the dynamics demand it. When considering the balance of powers involved, the most Yud and co can hope for is to smooth out the edges a little bit, don't go all in on a strategy with 0 chance of success.
From where I sit, hoping for neural net alignment is itself a strategy with ~0 chance of success. Reality is under no obligation to give you a "reasonable" solution.
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6d ago
I know what he said, but I was deviating slightly; I think that given the Chinese IADS and given a committed-to-AGI CPC (note that this latter is a condition that I do not think is necessarily true IRL), there is probably no way to actually destroy the Chinese capacity to pursue AGI without nuclear attacks (against the IADS, but also against the datacentres themselves; it's not like the CPC doesn't have the resources to put them inside conventional-proof bunkers if it fears an attack, after all, and actually invading China to put an end to things that way is roughly in the realm of "either you drop a couple of hundred nukes on them first to soften them up, or this is as much of a non-starter as fucking Sealion") and even if there were a way to do it conventionally, this almost certainly exceeds the threshold of damage that would get the Chinese deterrent launched. Thus, it is a lot more pragmatic to simply open up with a nuclear alpha strike; you know that this ends in a nuclear exchange anyway, so it's best to have it on your terms. I would agree that it's best to keep to conventional weapons if e.g. Panama were to try to build Skynet.
I'm not advocating Nuclear War Now IRL, because the situation posited is not the real situation; the USA has not made the offer of a mutual halt to AI, and I find it fairly likely that such an offer would actually be accepted (it's not like the CPC wants to end the world, after all; they're way up the other end of "keep things under control and stable, no matter the cost"). To the extent I'm less opposed to nuclear war than I'd otherwise be, it's because I suspect that the gameboard might be in an unwinnable state - and mostly on the US side, because of too much of US discourse being held on platforms controlled by AI companies (YouTube, Facebook, Twitter are all owned by companies/people that also do AI, and devices themselves are mostly Microsoft/Apple/Google OSes which also do AI; the latter is relevant because e.g. the Apple Vision Pro is designed to function as a brainwashing helmet) and Andreessen Horowitz having potentially captured/bribed the Trump admin on AI policy - making a mulligan seem like it would probably lower P(Doom). I'm not going to go out and start one for that reason, though, even if I knew how; Pride is my sin, and it's not even close, but I still don't have that much of it.
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7d ago
AI safety is myopic, obsessed solely with the dangers of race dynamics above all else. Besides the danger of decentralization, there's also the danger of losing the race. Who is to say that the US can afford to slow down with the Chinese breathing down their neck? They've done pretty well with the resources available to them and there's a lot more they could do - mobilizing vast highly educated populations to provide high-quality data for a start.
Eliezer Yudkowsky has explicitly noted* the alternative solution to this problem:
If intelligence says that a country outside the agreement is building a GPU cluster, be less scared of a shooting conflict between nations than of the moratorium being violated; be willing to destroy a rogue datacenter by airstrike.
Frame nothing as a conflict between national interests, have it clear that anyone talking of arms races is a fool. That we all live or die as one, in this, is not a policy but a fact of nature. Make it explicit in international diplomacy that preventing AI extinction scenarios is considered a priority above preventing a full nuclear exchange, and that allied nuclear countries are willing to run some risk of nuclear exchange if that’s what it takes to reduce the risk of large AI training runs.
That’s the kind of policy change that would cause my partner and I to hold each other, and say to each other that a miracle happened, and now there’s a chance that maybe Nina will live.
If you think China is going to destroy the world, the correct solution is not to destroy the world yourself as if RL is a game of DOTA; it's to stop China from destroying the world. Tell them that doing this will end the world. If they keep doing it, tell them that if they don't stop, you'll nuke them, and that their retaliation against this is irrelevant because it can't kill more Americans than the "all of them" that will be killed if they continue. If they don't stop after that, nuke them, and pray that there's some more sanity the next time around.
*To be clear, I was nearly done writing a similar essay myself, because I didn't think he had the guts to spit it out (certainly most top Rats don't). Apparently he did.
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7d ago
I think I agree with 2/5, think 1/5 is the ideal but tricky to actually implement, and actually disagree with 2/5 (though not fully in either case).
The one that's tricky is inquisitors; the problem is setting up a highly-trustworthy and highly-politically-neutral oversight body to make sure that inquisitors don't, y'know, get captured by the party in power and lock up the opposition. The difficulty of this is the motivation for jury trials, although this purpose has been largely vitiated by various schemes on the part of the government and legal apparatus (there's a whole battery of ways that judges and lawyers cut down on nullification, ranging from strikes to barring mentions to jury instructions).
The ones I disagree with are guns (I think it's wired into the male brain to like weapons; I think US gun culture is maybe a step too far, and I think handguns are a worse value proposition than all other small arms and even a lot of higher-end stuff, but I do generally support the ability of random interested people to be able to hunt game or shoot targets for its own sake) and the executions (I'm mostly on board with the Galactic Milieu policy where, upon sufficiently demonstrating that you're irredeemable, you get a choice of life without parole/["death of personality" if available]/execution, as I'm generally on team "prevention and deterrence" rather than "punishment and deterrence"; definitely prefer bullet to the head over lethal injection as method, though).
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