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7mo ago
Not quite an exact quote. Trump did not call Justice Ginsburg an "amazing man."
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7mo ago
Was up north with time to kill while watching rain fall on the lake. Read Arthur C. Clarke's Rendezvous with Rama over the weekend. I enjoyed it, though the edition had an appalling forward. I can see why the ending was controversial, as the central mystery of the book is not resolved, but it did not bother me as much as I expected it would. Also started a novel Subsunk about various submarine rescue developments and incidents. However it was printed in 1960 and I suspect may be slightly out of date.
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7mo ago
If the Court has a better plan, then they should order it and get it over with.
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7mo ago
That is a problem for El Salvador to deal with. If they disagree, they can release him.
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7mo ago
There are multiple meanings to "US Government is paying to house prisoners in ES". One is that the U.S. is basically paying hotel fees per prisoner to have them housed in an El Salvador prison. In this case, sure you could simply stop paying the fee and presumably El Salvador might feel obliged to release him. Another is that the U.S. is providing a block grant or something else of value of the privilege of having the repatriated nationals accepted by El Salvador at all, or as general compensation for the fact that many need to be imprisoned by El Salvador. In that case, it's not a simple matter of procedure but actual foreign policy to threaten to cut off funding over the disposition of a single individual.
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7mo ago
The point is it doesn't matter what people notice and believe if they are doing it privately. In attempting to forcibly reshape reality based on the premise that these things that people noticed and believe are actually wrong, progressives force them to either have to say them publicly, which sucks, or to swallow injustice as a quasi-religious sacrificial rite.
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7mo ago
If today the Executive claims the right to deport without due process and in disregard of court orders, what assurance will there be tomorrow that it will not deport American citizens and then disclaim responsibility to bring them home?" And what assurance shall there be that the Executive will not train its broad discretionary powers upon its political enemies?
The answer is that there is no such assurance from the legal system and never has been, and that it's the "lawcucks" who have fooled themselves into believing their fortresses of sand were ever strong enough to stem the tide.
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7mo ago
Generally, rural areas are much easier to work with for several reasons. First, outside of incorporated municipalities, you generally only have to worry about permitting from the town or county, which generally are set up to default allow. Farmland is not especially valuable, and even inside a municipality or village, you have far fewer people to have to negotiate with, and who are generally starving for any kind of economic growth.
There are exceptions, of course. One is areas in which the state or federal government owns most of the land. In that case, your development will probably be confined to municipalities who can then afford to be a lot pickier about what they allow. Another is areas that are already wealthy and have little need or interest in further economic growth, like, say, Sedona. They will show a lot more resistance to changes that alter the makeup or vibe of the area. Combine the two and you get places like Aspen, well-established as a playground for the wealthy, with a moratorium on all new residential construction and renovation, and surrounded by unbuildable, wild, federally protected land.
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7mo ago
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7mo ago
On the other hand, battleships can perform a function (armored mobile very large gun batteries) that is both useful and not directly replaced by other capabilities, but they were deemed obsolete anyways. It could also be the case that something is obsolete because the special capabilities they do bring are just not worth the enormous cost.
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7mo ago
Just to add perspective since I was alive and watching the news during the Clinton drama, there were a variety of objections in increasing importance:
- He cheated on his wife
- He cheated on his wife with an intern over whom he was the clear superior
- He did the above in the Oval Office which is a government workplace
- He did all of the above, and then lied about to the public and Congress
- He did all of the above, and then lied about it in a sworn deposition
Characterizing the reaction to Clinton as being primarily about the sanctity of marriage is, I think, not remotely reasonable.
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7mo ago
Well - do we know, actually, that this isn't what happened here? I think it's pretty likely they did in fact fly to an airport and not directly to a prison, and that it's pretty likely they did in fact turn them over to El Salvadoran custody at that point. Or are you making the stronger demand that we not deport anyone who is likely to be imprisoned in their home country? Unfortunately this amounts to a demand that we provide sanctuary and extra privileges to the world's criminals, which is outrageous.
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7mo ago
It's the same thing, unless you believe that it is not possible for El Salvador to prosecute their national for a crime committed in the United States. I'm not an expert on Salvadoran law, but I would be very surprised if there was such a statutory limitation. The U. S. certainly has none.
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7mo ago
What is your preferred term to describe El Salvador's role "imprisoning non-Salvadorians not accused of any crime in El Salvador, at the request of and and with payment from the USA?"
That might indeed be a circumstance where there is a clear contractual agreement with an obvious consideration. But that is not what has happened here: the prisoner is a Salvadoran national with no residency right in the U.S., in El Salvador. El Salvador has the right to prosecute him regardless of our opinion, so they are not clearly doing anything they couldn't or wouldn't do on their own.
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7mo ago
Obviously the 6th Amendment does not apply if the government is not prosecuting them, and a deportation proceeding is not a criminal trial. Foreign nationals being tried by foreign courts have no 6th Amendment case with the U. S. Government.
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7mo ago
I was asking an interlocutor. They are not bound by judicial rules.
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7mo ago
Sure, but he's not under U.S. jurisdiction. I don't see that we have any obligation to bust him out of prison over the objection of El Salvador.
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7mo ago
I would consider removal to a foreign prison, perhaps with access to petition the court via writing, to be a form of exile.
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7mo ago
I wonder how long it will take for the real gang members (if there are any being deported) to wisen up to the fact that murdering an ICE agent (or just a random civilian bystander) will immensely improve their outcomes (if they survive the encounter). Then they get a nice long trial in the US.
Why? Is there something that would prevent the U.S. from deporting immediately and letting El Salvador prosecute the case?
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7mo ago
Replying to myself that according to Grok it appears the Court has rejected denationalization only for natural citizens, but exile doesn't appear to have been discussed.
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7mo ago
Why? Eighth Amendment? A cursory search did not find any case law on the matter.
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7mo ago
I feel it is a necessary tonic to people who claim it is physically impossible for them to lose weight, choosing to blame the outcome on other people or nature itself. CICO is the reductio ad absurdum which proves that the ultimate locus of control cannot be found elsewhere.
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7mo ago
Suppose that El Salvador decides he is rightfully imprisoned and doesn't feel like releasing him? How far do you think the court can go to mandate foreign policy to effect his return? Economic sanctions? Military blockade? War?
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7mo ago
Given that he was an El Salvadoran national, where else could he be removed to? Are there other countries stepping up to accept deportees on El Salvador's behalf? If the answer is a legal catch-22 where he gets to stay despite being eligible for deportation, then I have no choice but to reject the legitimacy of the process that produces that outcome.
Don't know how it is 'round your parts, but I found out firsthand that there is approximately one full-time mechanical clock repairer/restorer in my metroplex, who is also well past retirement and cannot meet demand.
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