sarker
ketman hetman
Suddenly I cannot remember the color of your eyes
Or the things we said as we stood together for the last time
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sarker
ketman hetman
3d ago
Uh yeah I do think lower income people eat peanuts and beans. @hydroacetylene back me up as the resident lower income Hispanic knower.
hand wringing about "food desserts"
Well, the popularity of food desserts is definitely a big problem for obesity.
sarker
ketman hetman
3d ago
Interesting indeed.
One of the purposes of that sort of restriction is to prevent scams where a PT just bills insurance without doing anything.
What an isolated demand for rigor. What do we do about doctors billing insurance without doing anything? Or car mechanics?
Why does the law need to be involved at all? This is just between me and my insurer, right? If I want to see a physio on my own dime, that's none of their business, but I can't do that indefinitely.
the complaint is essentially baseless slander
Baseless slander, really? Then why did medical associations oppose the direct access campaign? What's your reason for calling something that happened a slander?
does not acknowledge the possibility of other sensible explanations
Please do explain why it's anybody's business if I see a PT for more than 90 days without a referral.
or the reality that the situation has changed in healthcare has changed
Changed how? Since when?
Conspiratorial posts about the AMA have low predictive value
The AMA, like other professional organizations, is literally a conspiracy that seeks to extract benefits for itself first and foremost. I don't see how this can be disputed.
The predictive value here is quite clear - AMA opposition means you may need to jump through some number of hoops to access a PT. So OP should check his local laws. That's it.
sarker
ketman hetman
3d ago
Boron is mostly found in fruits and avocados, which are generally "middle-class and up fare" in America.
Boron content varies with the soil where the crops are grown, but 1.5 oz of raisins have almost as much boron as half a cup of avocados. Two ounces of peanuts or a cup of refried beans have a similar amount. Raisins, beans, and peanuts are hardly middle class and up fare.
sarker
ketman hetman
3d ago
That's extremely different from what you said before
Really? Let's double check.
doctor cartels have made it illegal to access PTs indefinitely without a doctor's stamp of approval in many states.
in many states it is illegal to see a PT indefinitely without seeing a doctor.
Are these the same claim? Have I changed my position? Let's get this straight before I respond to your other points.
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ketman hetman
3d ago
However, the player is still supposed to be the protector patriarch to this android, and is thus, according to the reasoning of Blue Tribers, designed to pander to the toxic fantasies of angry loser males who are otherwise mostly unfit to attract flesh-and-blood women and form families in the real world.
You're still just making this up as far as I can tell. As other commenters noted, games like BioShock have the same framing and everyone loves them.
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ketman hetman
3d ago
I knew I'd summon you with this comment. You've quite simply cherry picked some reasonable sounding lines and neglected to mention the other conditions.
For example:
"A therapist who has more than one year of experience supervises any therapists licensed for less than one year."
Wow, very reasonable, thank you AMA. That's Minnesota. What other restrictions do they have?
Therapy does not continue beyond 90 days without a referral.
So I stand by what I said - in many states it is illegal to see a PT indefinitely without seeing a doctor.
sarker
ketman hetman
3d ago
sarker
ketman hetman
4d ago
Seems like you kind of made that up out of whole cloth. Do you have any support for this claim? How does a game about (approximately) a single father relate to the nuclear family?
It seems much more likely that this game really is popular among pedos. This is not to say that this was intentional on capcom's part, or that you can't play this game as a normal person, of course.
sarker
ketman hetman
4d ago
this sleazy game feeds into the typical male fantasy of being the protector and patriarch of a nuclear family where he is supposedly owed sex, affection, food, services etc. His subjugated wife is the idealized woman who is virtuous and yet hot, basically a personal slut.
I don't follow. What is the nuclear family here? Who is the wife? Is this not a game where you play as a human with an "android" sidekick that looks like a child?
sarker
ketman hetman
6d ago
Find someone who's been around the block to take you under their wing, ideally a striver and/or middle manager. Endear yourself to them, but don't be cringe.. They can help you get promoted, find a better position in the company as they advance in their career, or help you get your foot in the door if they leave for a better place.
sarker
ketman hetman
6d ago
The fact that they (allegedly) regularly make illegal moves is evidence of it.
It really depends on the model. Some of them don't make illegal moves, or at least do so rarely.
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ketman hetman
6d ago
I don't care about chess,
Really? Then why are you talking about tracking the state of the chess game?
This is just incorrect, and you know it. Stop muddying the waters.
I already said:
I admit I couldn't find examples of people testing LLMs' ability to continually update e.g. a FEN representation of the board.
There's really no need to get so touchy.
sarker
ketman hetman
6d ago
Does your car "analyze different approaches with their respective tradeoffs and implement the solution it thinks best" when you apply the anti-lock braking system?
Can't say my car has ever presented me with multiple options when I press the brakes.
sarker
ketman hetman
6d ago
I admit I couldn't find examples of people testing LLMs' ability to continually update e.g. a FEN representation of the board. However, I did find that (certain) LLMs have actually been able to play chess just given the moves made so far (no actual visualization of the board, no harness) and make legal next moves since 2023. If you have an explanation of how it's doing that with no internal model of the board (as shown in this paper for a toy model), I'm all ears.
Agreed. Let me ask you this: Now that you understand what I meant with the word "database," do you disagree with anything I have said?
I think we agree that LLMs learn from seeing chess games. I don't agree that LLMs aren't modeling chess at all - there seems to be no evidence for this. A thinking trace of a chess game with an LLM would certainly show the LLM trying to think about possible moves and evaluating their trade offs, even in the absence of a game board that it uses to keep state. I'm sure they are more likely to make mistakes if they aren't keeping track of the board, but so are humans.
To be honest, I'm not sure what kind of evidence would change your mind here if existing thinking traces are not enough. Anthropic researchers found that models are doing complex modeling for tasks as simple as deciding when to start a new line when writing text. Looking into a model to really understand how it's modeling something as complicated as a chess game would require a research budget.
Edit: there was a dude who trained a small model on next token prediction and found that it maintains a board state internally. So I guess now we can put this to bed?
Yes, as far as I know, at the moment humans are capable of making and using more sophisticated models of chess than are LLMs. (To the extent that LLMs are capable of making models along the lines you described.)
Sure, in the sense that good human players can beat LLMs at chess. That said, the best models play at a class C level and do significantly better than the average chess.com player, which I think is hard to explain away by appealing to the models having memorized a bunch of openings.
sarker
ketman hetman
7d ago
By not modeling chess. I mean, even if one allows that an LLM can set up a rudimentary model along the lines you describe, it's not carved into stone anywhere that they must do so.
I genuinely don't understand what we're talking about anymore. It's not carved into stone that a human must set up a rudimentary model to play a game of chess either. Is there any distinction, in your view, between LLMs and humans in the chess scenario?
sarker
ketman hetman
7d ago
poor for functionally utilizing said knowledge, especially in matters complex, unusual, or otherwise not 1:1 with stuff from their training material.
Like I said:
Dismissing as mere sophistry novel LLM-discovered software exploits and math theorems is absurd.
"LLMs haven't written a beautiful symphony or designed a beautiful building" is simply moving the goal posts. There's no reason that those are the true test of putting things together and theorems and exploits don't count.
sarker
ketman hetman
7d ago
This argument smells like the old canard of LLMs not being able to do anything novel, not being able to do anything that they haven't seen before. Again, I think this can be dismissed out of hand now that LLMs are solving open math problems.
LLMs don't do anything like that ever.
LLMs don't make plans while evaluating tradeoffs and then do things to put those plans into action? I don't know how you can even believe that in May 2026. Have you never used a coding agent and had it plan a solution, seen it analyze different approaches with their respective tradeoffs, and seen it propose the option it thinks is best?
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ketman hetman
7d ago
Do you dispute this claim?
Only to the extent that this claim applies to humans too, so it's not clear to me how this is supposed to draw a line between what humans do and what LLMs do.
After a few postcards go back and forth, you decide it would be helpful to set up a chessboard in order to keep track of what's going on and for each move
Okay. But we know that LLMs can keep track of the game by printing the current state of the board and updating each time you or it make a move. So in what way do LLMs not model chess?
Infinite didn't. It's just an example - there's Dishonored 2 (2016) and Witcher 3 (2015) (this one really was a nuclear family simulator).
Then there's God of War and its sequel, Yakuza 6, Death Stranding, seriously do I need to go on?
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