sun_the_second
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It's a typical response to literally referring to a man's protectiveness of his daughter's chastity (a woman he is expected to not be fucking) with the same terminology as a man's protectiveness of his wife's faithfullness (a woman he is expected to be fucking). It's quite rich to glug the poison straight from the skull and bones vial in front of everyone and then claim you were poisoned.
I'm not attacking possessiveness or general "thot-patrolling" here, my question is about the specific choice of language. Do you want to make your daughter your wife, and if not, why do you imply someone fucking your daughter would make you the same thing as someone fucking your wife? You hide behind "but other people at other venues ask such questions for other reasons, and anyway those other people don't sufficiently interrogate women like that".
Note that women will absolutely receive accusations of wanting their son for themselves if they chase away all his girlfriends and marriage prospects, if I can help it.
How would you clarify whether there's anything behind a person's repeated, ambiguously ironic evocation of the "daughter is the ultimate cuck" meme without it sounding like an insult? Cuckoldry is a term referring to your wife being fucked by another man. Therefore, if you're being cucked when someone fucks your daughter, she must be your wife.
We have (had) self-proclaimed pedofascists here, so I can't really assume asking whether my interlocutor is one must be taken as an insult.
sun_the_second
5mo ago
I have to ask this straight at this point, would you breed with your own daughter if inbreeding and social backlash was not in the cards?
sun_the_second
5mo ago
For all their faults, there is still an element of spontaneity in genes and social patterns. With the dystopia I'm seeing, we're talking about wholesale engineering, which is what freaks me out.
Are you worried that engineering will lock it in? From what I know, genes and societies can stay the same for millenia until sufficiently disturbed. In light of that, I'm not that much terrified by the longevity of AI dystopia.
sun_the_second
5mo ago
To be honest, I don't see the distinction you've drawn between "will have their moments of cognitive dissonance and scrambling to come up with an excuse" and your following examples. Certainly I can imagine those people having moments of cognitive dissonance and scrambling to come up with excuses for their priorities.
Your prophesized AI future is certainly unseemly. However, I'm more often disgusted by the extent to which we already are slaves to genetic propagation and social patterns. Not often enough to make me nihilistic about life in general, but enough to look towards the future rather than embrace the past.
sun_the_second
5mo ago
People should be wary of them. Scared is a stronger thing.
sun_the_second
5mo ago
Do you, honestly, think ideology doesn't speak through you? Never?
sun_the_second
5mo ago
Or dare them to run into traffic to prove they aren't scared of car accidents.
sun_the_second
5mo ago
I would sooner suspect a man who has been to the sex tourism capital of the world than the one who chose to live there. The former man's motivation is scrutable, the latter's more complicated. I have not heard of many people who love brothels so much they'd live next door for the convenience.
That's why I find Musk's signaling worse, he went on the tangent of a largely baseless accusation in a personal spat.
sun_the_second
5mo ago
exactly how high a percentage of child prostitution do you think is necessary to be justified in calling someone a pedo for moving to that country, with no other evidence?
sun_the_second
5mo ago
How are Indians not fulfilling the "be fruitful and multiply" mission, if they are more fruitful and multiply faster than Americans? As far as I'm aware, they also obey the same laws of evolution as Americans.
sun_the_second
5mo ago
I would sooner assume that there were plenty of Jesus-like people before Jesus - it's just that none got popular enough - than assume that Jesus was the first one to think of "just literally be kind to everyone, bro", not to mention being God.
sun_the_second
5mo ago
Anyone else here got UFO 50? What do you think of its attempted homage to the gaming of the 80s? I wasn't around back then, so I'm not terribly invested in the classics.
I'd say Vainger and Party House are my favorites out of the collection so far.
sun_the_second
6mo ago
If I have to be maximally charitable to the ethnomaxxing view, we're going to need stable high-trust high-IQ societies in order to get to gene editing within the century.
sun_the_second
6mo ago
There is no need to inject such blatant clap signs as quoted, though.
sun_the_second
6mo ago
What it looks like to me is that it's far from "everyone" that smashes the defect button - more like 10% of dysfunctional criminals and elite sociopaths. The rest try to cooperate, it's just that your tribe's definition of "cooperate" is not the other tribe's.
sun_the_second
6mo ago
They've probably been on the route a few times already.
sun_the_second
6mo ago
This looks like one of the cases where being more realistic is not more useful. Even if Sam Kriss is 99% right, what is the use of following his earthly wisdom instead of gambling for the 1%?
sun_the_second
6mo ago
The explanation that convinced me was essentially "removing all senses from a human for a specific time and then giving them back without irreversible damage is hard, especially since humans have a very wide range of medicine tolerances and reactions".
If I had to write code, with no syntax highlight, no test cases, in subtly different environments every time, and a single compiler error might kill someone, I'd definitely want some training.
sun_the_second
6mo ago
this is why video games fail to be art; once they're put in the hands of the player, the creator has no control over the creative expression.
That's like saying once a picture is out of the hands of the painter, it stops being art because the viewer might look at the right side of it first or the left, with no control from the creator. How can one ensure proper creative expression?
I don't see how the existence of options in a videogame takes away control from the creator. They literally made all that, and chose to make no more and no less.
sun_the_second
6mo ago
I don't think they truly believed this, but then again I find it hard to believe most Christians in general truly believe. It does seem, however, to be in character for a social technology that optimizes for maximum converts and maximum adherence to their practice. Come to us, literally any and all, and you will receive everything in the afterlife as long as you do what we say, no matter the past.
Irredeemable sinners would be a failure of such a system, as they have no more incentive to obey.
Didn't Chuck Palahniuk write about that?
In case you wanted my opinion on this, I don't even consider this sex anymore. I don't know what you call it. Comparing this to being a slut is like comparing the hot dog speed eating contest to an occasional cheat day at McDonalds.
sun_the_second
6mo ago
Is there anything stopping you from passably faking a Christian reawakening?
sun_the_second
6mo ago
Question 1: wild guess.
Question 2:
From what I've read on how people talked about sex "normally", outside of puritan societies and polite company, they were quite vulgar. They didn't have porn, true.
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