sun_the_second
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sun_the_second
10mo ago
The sense of belonging is material. What isn't material is imagining that Roman slaves on average had it better based on your own yearning for "a point" you had or do feel. I can just as well imagine a modern lumpenprole taking satisfaction from leeching off the society that failed to give him a dignified life, and finding that as low as his life is, it is at least better than coping with forced servitude.
My general impression is that people retreat to "spiritual value" when they don't feel any actual value and desperately need to.
If you want to stay completely agnostic on the athlete's sex, be my guest. Even if I accept a 50/50 prior (which is ridiculous, approximately no one, not even the die-hard gender-non-assumers do that), performing on par with other female-patterned boxers is info.
I'm not engaging in "precisely the same type of skepticism". You said you can't know her sex one way or the other without evidence. I'm saying I can, in fact, know "one way", even if it's not 100%. I trust my eyes more than I do Olympic (or formerly Olympic-certified) commissions, that's all.
sun_the_second
10mo ago
But here we have a dude punching a woman in the face
Do we? Perhaps if you have reason to trust IBA's judgment despite them being quite abrupt and tight-lipped about it, you believe it. I don't, and the other info appear to be coming out the other way. As found by other posters, Khelif's record is not the dominating streak one would expect from a male fighting women, neither do her other fights suggest she is a stronger if unskilled fighter.
sun_the_second
10mo ago
I'm talking about those that were sentenced on the fresh law about "discrediting the Russian Armed Forces", so, I assume, harmful mostly to the Russian government's ego.
sun_the_second
10mo ago
That's true. Does boxing snowball?
sun_the_second
10mo ago
Still, in either chess, Dota 2 or Magic: the Gathering it is evidently commonplace to concede a game that's considered unrecoverable, in professional settings.
sun_the_second
10mo ago
Perhaps she did, but notably, she had beaten a Russian athlete shortly before being disqualified by a "separate [from testosterone screening] and recognized test".
sun_the_second
10mo ago
Regarding sources and their dubiousness - apparently Khelif was disqualified by IBA, led at the time by a Russian CEO, right before the finals of the championship where she had previously beaten the Russian athlete, with this being the sole statement by IBA regarding this. Apparently, this is the only source of information on her alleged intersex status.
sun_the_second
10mo ago
You were putting the onus on the disqualifiers a second ago, are they supposed to grope her?
They're medics in a sports eligibility testing org, they draw her blood and look at her piss in a lab. Yes, it is reasonable to expect them to grope her more so than a poster here.
You're presumably aware that the [organizations in charge of] official tests do not confirm anything on that matter, and you wouldn't trust them if they did. How exactly do you think /r/themotte should get our hands on unofficial tests?
sun_the_second
10mo ago
When you say this, do you mean that Semenya is not a woman because she is male intersex with internalized testes, or that she is a fully typical male? If it's the latter, can I ask where you've got that info?
sun_the_second
10mo ago
What kind of evidence would convince you of either side of the argument?
sun_the_second
10mo ago
Yes, and I am in favor of using reason to get society to where I want it. I'm being flippant because I don't believe, like you seem to do, that history doesn't have an escape velocity. Not because I'm just hoping for everything to work out on its own.
sun_the_second
10mo ago
Her country and several testing committees would have to cover up the fact that she was born and raised male, all to enter a relatively mediocre (as I understand it - she's no undefeated unsurpassable champion) fighter into the women's Olympic boxing. What for?
sun_the_second
10mo ago
From what it looks like at a glance, though, the West gave away mostly Russian spies and assassins, while Russia released mostly relatively harmless dissidents.
sun_the_second
10mo ago
I can understand being wary of technological solutions because they might cement an inhuman, soulless Empire forever and ever. But you don't believe in forever Empires, so why not give it a go? Worst case scenario, the Empire falls and we retvrn back to the way humans should be. And if there are skulls and suffering along the way, well, there's always been suffering and people were fine. At least that's what I gathered of your view.
sun_the_second
10mo ago
It’s essentially giving cops discretion to arrest people they believe are up to no good just from their appearance, with the extra check that they need some pretext for the stop and must actually find some drugs.
This, except they don't need to find some drugs, they only need to """find""" some drugs.
sun_the_second
10mo ago
You're decrying "assassination during war" on the grounds that "you're gunning enough of them down as it is"?
sun_the_second
10mo ago
Besides, a man who quickly rose through the ranks has likely done something less self-degrading, but more venal, such as assisting in a corruption scheme. Why would I prefer him as a leader?
sun_the_second
10mo ago
Russia regained the Black Sea in 2014.
sun_the_second
10mo ago
I think you have to get to, like, 70 IQ before you start despairing that your kids are going to fare no better than mice.
sun_the_second
10mo ago
I do not take the suffering of humanity for millennia to adapt to the specific needs of society to be a reasonable course of action. Tradition holds that society should conform to us and our nature in its design. The precise opposite of progress politics which is always looking to create New Man.
Once upon a time, a man lived in a valley between two cliffs. The valley was carved by the river that flowed in that place for millenia. So taken was he by the beauty and glory of what nature wrought that he set off to carve another such pair of cliffs and dig another valley.
"You fool," said his fellow villagers, "you absolute buffoon. You can't replicate nature. Even if our entire village moved to the spot you picked and toiled for generations, it would take centuries to approximate it, and then, without the river there to keep carving the path, the cliffs would collapse and undo all our hubris anyway."
A few millenia later, another man in an entirely unrelated place invented dynamite.
sun_the_second
10mo ago
What it sounds like is that you're more educated and wordcelly than your wifepartner is, not that you're so much smarter that having children with her is some sort of huge Life Efficiency loss.
sun_the_second
10mo ago
How many wanton land grabs does, in your opinion, one first man in space buy? Are historical achievements time-discounted?
What do you base this on?
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