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naraburns  nihil supernum  1yr ago (text post)   30980 thread views

Israel-Gaza Megathread #2

This is a refreshed megathread for any posts on the conflict between (so far, and so far as I know) Hamas and the Israeli government, as well as related geopolitics. Culture War thread rules apply.

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currently a genocide of gazans is underway

[citation needed] that what Israel government is doing is worse than what Hamas doing, and more deserving sanctions/invasion.

i would not be surprised if this results in 10 000 + dollars per american, so you should be in support

That is a dumb reason to be in support, and expecting that such thing would be net financial gain is hilarious. Are you aware that Israel has nuclear weapons?

EDIT: author proposed to expel Jews from Israel and sell all their property. For some weird reason they implied that it would be a good idea, and that it would overall have profits.

It's just bait going to get someone to say it's bad to do that to Jews so he can cite to someone saying it's good to do to Arabs, then jerk himself off about Jewish conspiracies or something.

84wpmtyper's proposal was to expel all the Jews from Western countries while taking their wealth ("each American should get $10k from this!"), put them all in Israel, then cut off Israel from "all trade and cooperation" and have Iran deal with them. Basically an alternate, softened version of what the nazis did.

He has since private messaged me twice, claiming I misrepresented his post (I didn't), and that he fears for his life when he speaks out against the Jews. I'm assuming this is more bait.

I second the suggestion to ban 84wpmtyper if he carries on.

Oh, sorry for misrepresenting their shizoposting. Still, my comments apply.

Basically an alternate, softened version of what the nazis did.

If anything, nazis were at least more honest what they are trying to achieve.

and that he fears for his life when he speaks out against the Jews

yeah, bait. If they are sending this stuff it would be a good idea to preserve his life and ban him from speaking on this topic :)

[citation needed] that what Israel government is doing is worse than what Hamas doing, and more deserving sanctions/invasion.

I'm not that person but as of writing:

Palestinian dead: 3,785

Israeli dead: 1,300

So by that objective measure Israel has killed more and is therefore "worse," if killing is a problem worth condemning. And that ratio is sure to get worse. Surely some of those Palestinian dead are children and attractive under 40 women, if that helps. To put it more provocative (honest) and bluntly, Israelis/Jews are the more prolific merciless baby killers. They just objectively are.

I personally always keep that stat in mind whenever I see someone try to pull the "omg atrocities" sympathy card by counting bodies. A bizarre play for Israeli siders because the Palestinians will always have the Israelis beat in an oppression and body count olympics. It only really makes sense for Jewish chauvinists that genuinely believe a Jewish life is more valuable than a goy, but most that pull said card aren't so it remains bizarre to me.

For start:

  • how many Palestinians were killed by Hamas etc (with trollmode on: remember that 800 were claimed by Hamas to be killed in explosion that turned out to be clearly caused by faulty Palestinian rocket)
  • how many Israelis were killed by Israelis ?
  • how many dead Palestinians and Israeli are combatants?

And in my opinion deliberate murder of 1000 random civilians is much worse than 1000 civilians dying as collateral damage because terrorists setup weapon storage in apartment buildings.

Assuming you're not outright trolling, a glance over your brief post history here suggests that you have not yet really grasped the spirit of the rules.

This is not the place to wage the culture wars; this is the place to discuss them with people who disagree with you. That means making your claims less-than-maximally-inflammatory, furnishing evidence in proportion to how inflammatory they are, speaking about specific rather than general groups, writing in a way that invites everyone to participate in the conversation, not building consensus or recruiting for a cause, and so on. Your post should evidence some measure of asking yourself "why do I believe what I believe" and "what would it take to change my mind?"

Basically, please don't post like this.

It is now deleted. Maybe post author should be banned next time they do this?

This makes me more curious as to what the post actually was.

I can still see it. Can't you?

Deleted by author

Yeah it's gone now. He (not sure if I should mention who it was) suggested that the West should expel all Jews, seizing their assets and concentrating them in Israel, cut them off from all trade and set Iran against them.

I see it now. When I first hopped into this thread, it just said "filtered"

And after reading it, it kinda made me want to reply in a way that may be skirting the rules. I almost think it's a false flag comment. That's how outside the overton window it is.

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