FiveHourMarathon

FiveHourMarathon Wawa Nationalist 6hr ago

Does Hamas control anything at this point, in the sense that I could go to an office and talk to my local boss to get something?

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FiveHourMarathon Wawa Nationalist 7hr ago

And if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.

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FiveHourMarathon Wawa Nationalist 8hr ago

I understand what you're saying, I don't really see it as a different category of problem. Germans and Poles and Russians and Ukrainians have all experienced living in places for centuries only to find that the government of that place suddenly no longer considered them citizens. So did Russian aristocracy, Cambodian bourgeoisie, East African indians, hell millions of Americans have arguments around this.

This seems like another special pleading case where the Holocaust is considered particularly exceptional and gives the designated descendants of the victims a gold card to break norms that everyone else is expected to observe.

Either way the argument that the Holocaust justifies paranoia doesn't really absolve anyone of anything. If I'm dating a girl and she refuses to commit because "she's been hurt before," I'm not obligated to tolerate it and consider her a loyal girlfriend despite her disloyal behavior. Commitment is commitment, and mixed loyalty is mixed loyalty, even if it is justified paranoia rather than pure avarice.

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FiveHourMarathon Wawa Nationalist 12hr ago

That's because they have a country that isn't going to suddenly decide they don't belong there.

Except, you know, that millions of eastern Europeans literally did find themselves in that situation at various times between the end of WWI and 2022.

I get what you're trying to say but altered borders so that Russians find themselves outside Russia, or Poles outside Poland, has been a pretty constant problem.

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FiveHourMarathon Wawa Nationalist 1d ago

I don't disagree, but at some level...call me old fashioned, but marrying the rich guy is generally how we define winning for a woman. No one is disputing that rich men can find poor women attractive, but if they aren't marrying them, then it's sort of irrelevant to the outcome of the match.

Saying that rich men are really attracted to something other than what they're marrying is just kind of a misunderstanding of terms in my mind. Like saying that the team that is losing baseball games is better at baseball than the team that is winning baseball games. Or, to mix sports metaphors, it brings to mind the classic Sampaoli quote on possession in soccer:

“One night, I went to a bar; I was with a woman. We talked all night. We laughed, we flirted, I paid for several drinks of hers. At around 5 am, a guy came in, grabbed her by the arm and took her to the bathroom. He made love to her and she left with him. That doesn’t matter, because I had most of the possession on that night.”

For a woman trying to net a rich husband, it doesn't really matter if he stares at the big-titted waitress at the bar, it barely matters if he bangs her on occasion. It matters who he marries, who he supports financially, who has the children he raises and supports. Those are the goals, the sex is just passing the ball(s) around.

((That said, when you talk about "soft harems" I think we're mixing up what the data here is about. The granularity on income stops at percentile. The top 1% of income is "only" about $400k/yr. While I suppose, with some cleverness, you could manage to squirrel enough away to spend enough to keep a glamour girl on the side off that, you're not keeping a harem. DiCaprio or Trump, ultra wealthy celebrities, are in another stratosphere from the data on record here.))

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FiveHourMarathon Wawa Nationalist 1d ago

I remember that the site AshleyMadisons most frequent occupations of the users was physician, second highest? Lawyer….

A website well known for its users' strong commitment to honesty.

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FiveHourMarathon Wawa Nationalist 1d ago

The only leglock I consistently use is the straight ankle. Everything else, I'm too worried about fucking up.

Though I did once land a cool kneebar from an electric chair sweep, but since then I have seemingly forgotten how to hit the electric chair sweep.

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FiveHourMarathon Wawa Nationalist 1d ago · Edited 1d ago

It's more just a data thing, the men are sorted by income percentile. There are around one million men in the top 1% of income, and because it's not weighted by income Elon Musk counts the same as my local Nissan Dealership owner or any law partner at a big firm. If it were the case that Davos type masters of the universe frequent prozzies, there just aren't enough of them to move the needle on what we're looking at, even within the pool of the 1%.

I'd add that everyone I know who has (admitted to) paying for sex was lower or working class, so it lines up with my experience. I'd imagine there are a few marginal cases I'm missing though.

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FiveHourMarathon Wawa Nationalist 1d ago

I suppose the availability can have an impact on the market even if they aren't used. Like the Marxian theory that the unemployed are the Reserve Army of Labor, driving down wages by fear of competition. And I suppose the same goes for young floozies: my wife sees a 20 year old woman admiring me and knows she has to compete, and chooses to be better? I don't know.

I just don't think it's the case that there's some secret activity that proves that men don't really want the things they are visibly pursuing.

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FiveHourMarathon Wawa Nationalist 1d ago

There are only about 2,000 men at Davos, only about 500 of them American. It wouldn't seriously impact the chart drawn above if every single one of them was balls deep in a hooker every night after the conference.

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FiveHourMarathon Wawa Nationalist 1d ago

If nothing else, they can afford to pick a high-end escort for a night.

1% is the general number for American men using escorts or prostitutes in the past year, and the highest estimates are only two and a half percent. It's also negatively correlated with income in general.

Just not a real thing people do at a level where it would impact these numbers.

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FiveHourMarathon Wawa Nationalist 1d ago

High earning men seem to want class peers. A woman's qualifications are a marker for class, and a woman's high salary is a manifestation of her class. Of course, once married, they can afford for her to stay home more easily than poorer families.

The thing that surprises me most is that you don't see richer men marrying younger women, as all of the older-younger pairings I've seen in real life have involved high-earning men. It might be that richer men marry younger, and therefore there is simply less scope for large age gaps. Or it might be that richer men are more sensitive to judgement from their peers, who would disapprove of larger age gaps.

Princeton Mom strikes again. College is the place to meet your partner.

I read The Original Preppy Handbook from the 1980s recently, my wife loved it and wanted me to read it. The whole book is built around a guide to being part of the preppy, mostly Northeastern, old money upper class. And the majority of the book is built around the social life of educational institutions: you go to this school, not so much to learn as to learn who to talk to. You meet people at your prep school, or your undergrad, or one of the sister/brother institutions to those schools, and those are pretty much your friends for life.

That's a fantasy of a past subculture that maybe never quite existed, but it does reflect the centrality of education to the modern American upper class. A young lawyer who goes K-JD is in full time schooling until they are 25 or 26, and basically that entire time their peer group is age-gated such that they have neither opportunity nor reason to get to know people much older or younger than they are. The median age at first marriage is around 30, and the median couple knows each other for a little over three years before getting engaged, followed by a year long engagement before they get married. So a huge number of our young professionals barely form a peer group or life outside of school before they meet their future mate.

That said, I definitely see some problems with their method.

What he wants (according to the data) is a woman around his age, with the same academic qualifications. Men with younger (and indeed, older) wives are the ones earning less money. What rich men want, it seems, is a (cultural, educational) peer.

With earnings is becomes a bit more complicated. As a man's income goes up, so does the income of his wife. But richer men earn a larger proportion of household income, and the women married to these men are the most likely to not work at all.

My own wife had an easier time getting her degree because she was married to me, I helped support her through school. She probably earns more money as a result of the family connections we have in the area. She would have been successful on all those things on her own, but...lots of people don't finish their degrees because they can't afford it. She is very smart and very good at her job, but being Mrs. FiveHour has helped her a bit at times. And in turn, being her husband has started to help me in business, people know her and like her and that helps me get my foot in the door.

A rich man might marry a woman who is on her own a well-educated high earner; but it's also a lot easier to get educated and to become a high earner if you're married to a wealthy man. Connections, support, sinecures. A rich wife can choose to continue her education, and if she wants a job it's easy to secure a highly paid one through her husband.

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FiveHourMarathon Wawa Nationalist 3d ago

I have a playlist of BJJ instructional videos miles deep that I want to study to learn more about aspects of BJJ I need to work on. But whenever I have free time to devote to BJJ, I'm at the gym rolling. If it's a night I'm not rolling, it's either because I'm too busy at work, or that I'm doing some other workout or activity, or I'm spending time with my wife; so I don't have the time to watch the instructionals, the entire BJJ time budget is eaten up by going to the gym. So it might be that they have a few hours a week to devote to this goal, and their choices are flashcards or happy hour, and they pick happy hour.

For that matter, if I had a magic trick to just make myself better at Jiu Jitsu, downloaded into my brain Matrix style, I don't know that I'd really want to be an insta-black belt. I'm not sure that would make the hobby more fun for me. I might want to be better than I am, maybe closer to Blue Belt, knowing more about how to handle certain situations I get trapped in, or how to avoid stalling out mid roll, but part of the fun is learning and I'd hate to skip over that.

Relatedly, I could probably get better at rock climbing if I spent time fingerboarding, but I don't. I find it boring and distasteful, and I don't really want to train rock climbing that way. I mostly just want to climb, and if I get better I get better. And some people look at that and say I don't really want to get better, but in my mind I do want to get better, my way; I want to get better, but I want the aesthetic experience more, getting better isn't the end unto itself. Like playing Pokemon and picking a min-maxed well balanced team of 3 good pokemon, vs just catching your favorites and figuring out how to make them work. The latter player wants to beat the game, but not as much as they want to beat the game with Venusaur and Scyther on their team.

That being said, I feel like you're seeing some kind of selection effect here. Most people suck at things, and they keep sucking at them, and they stop doing things they suck at after a while. The 75th percentile person who tries to learn Spanish in the sense of downloading DuoLingo or buying some books never learns any Spanish at all. What makes the people at your meetup group unusual is that they're continuing to put effort in, which probably relates to the low-investment social habit.

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FiveHourMarathon Wawa Nationalist 4d ago

Every Fascist movement/government was a little different, "Fascism" as such didn't necessarily have the ideological consistency that the Communism of the time did.

I return over and over to the myth of the Golem when thinking about the rise of Fascism in Germany and elsewhere. Traditional and Capitalist elites saw Hitler as a necessary counter to the threat of Communism, only to see Hitler grow too powerful and start threatening the aristocrats and capital who empowered him.

Equally, Hitler was empowered by continued Communist agitation and the refusal of Communist parties to ally with conservatives to stop Hitler, as part of Stalin's foreign policy choices, on the theory that the capitalist powers would exhaust themselves in war; they would live to see Hitler turn on the Soviets to disastrous effect.

Hitler had a lot of sometime allies on his way up, and a lot of them lived to regret it.

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FiveHourMarathon Wawa Nationalist 4d ago

Jews are widely treated as a kind of endangered species.

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FiveHourMarathon Wawa Nationalist 5d ago

What did Mike Huckabee do?

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FiveHourMarathon Wawa Nationalist 6d ago

I went to an establishment in North Carolina called Biscuits N Porn, that sold breakfast sandwiches and porn magazines. They seemed to have a large number of them on sale, though it was more of a theme/gimmick than a real sales item.

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Small-Scale Question Sunday for July 20, 2025

FiveHourMarathon Wawa Nationalist 7d ago

It's not, but it explains why someone might empirically think it is. Someone who eliminates hfcs from their diet will likely see various improvements in health.

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Small-Scale Question Sunday for July 20, 2025

FiveHourMarathon Wawa Nationalist 8d ago

A lot of really really unhealthy eating amounts to "not thinking about eating." Just eating whatever.

The moment you start thinking about anything relating to eating, it's a huge upgrade over not thinking.

You can get just as fat off cane sugar as hfcs, but if you refuse to eat hfcs you'll at least reject a few things at the 7-11, and sometimes you won't eat something you would have otherwise eaten.

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Friday Fun Thread for July 18, 2025

FiveHourMarathon Wawa Nationalist 8d ago

Don't forget that the government is currently setting the precedent for forcing you to make social media accounts public, meaning we're all fucked here.

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FiveHourMarathon Wawa Nationalist 9d ago

I've been using the wrong sports metaphor:

Vance has to be willing to just THROW THE DAGGER

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FiveHourMarathon Wawa Nationalist 9d ago

I wouldn't put high odds on anyone getting two chances to take out Trump. If you don't get him, there's a very good chance he's going to get you. And when you stay your hand the first time, it eats away at your support when people see you hesitate and don't know if you'll go through with it.

Coups come into this world like bastard children, half improvised and half compromised. If the deals and moves line up you can take it or you can let it go, but you probably can't time it.

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FiveHourMarathon Wawa Nationalist 9d ago

The earlier Trump resigns the better the path for Vance in 28. The stronger his case as incumbent.

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FiveHourMarathon Wawa Nationalist 9d ago

Idk, timing is pretty tough, if you have Trump on the ropes you put him away, you don't let him recover so you can knock him out in the fourth round.

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