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I think the chief value of HBD is as a frame work for upper class autists living in heavily segregated cities like LA, New York, and DC to justify their discomfort with the lower classes as something "rational" and "scientific" rather than a product of natural human bias/discomfort with the outgroup. HBD being true turns their preexisting biases and resentments into admirable qualities that further demonstrate their status as rational, intelligent, and thus superior people, where as HBD being false would be evidence of them being no better than anyone else.
You think this is the chief value? Or is this just your own hangup? I almost married a black chick, even though I believe in hbd. I can see a lot of cultural and political effects that are far more important than snark snark autism snark.
Yes. I think that is the chief value. Even if we take take the HBD advocates claims at face value, the effect size of race on outcomes is minuscule in comparison to things like nutrition, cultural background, economic status, marital status, age, religiosity, etc...
This raises the question of "why the focus race, at the exclusion of everything else" and to me the answer seems obvious, because academia has been mind-killed by intersectionality and identity politics. and because it's conclusions flatter the egos and support the preferences of a certain class academically inclined contrarians.
Do you have some numbers here to back this up? It would be great grounding point if you could put a dollar figure to, for instance, how much poorer your Jewish parents would need to be than a black couple for you to have the same expected educational and crime outcomes as said couple's hypothetical child.
I had a whole bunch of links on standby back when I used to get into it Trannyporno, Eggo, and Autisticthinker on a regular basis, but that was a good 6 - 7 years ago now. My 2004 think-pad has long since kicked the bucket and I haven't bothered to replace/rebuild it because because it rarely was an issue on reddit and the conversation had just gotten tired. That said if you or @The_Nybbler, or the OP have a study that you believe demonstrates that melanin content has a significantly greater effect on criminality or academic achievement than growing up a two parent household I'd like you to present it.
No it wasn't. Because I'm at an age where I'm long past trying to impress anyone if it isn't going to get me paid or laid. More pointedly, why is the burden on me to prove HBD false rather than on yourself and the OP to prove it true? Like I said, have a study that you believe demonstrates that melanin content has greater effect on criminality or academic achievement than growing up a two parent household I'd like you to present it. Otherwise, that which is asserted w/o evidence can be refuted just as readily.
Pot calling the kettle black much? You accuse me of being bitter and overly invested but I'm not the one who keeps brining the topic up.
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