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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 9, 2024

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I'm committing a major faux-pas by posting a second consecutive top-level comment, but it's been 12 hours and people need to post more. (Seriously, post a top level comment. Do it now.)

What's something that you were wrong about?

I'll start. I was wrong about marijuana legalization. It was a bad idea and we never should have done it. Marijuana is, contra urban legend, actually pretty addictive. And it makes productive people into unproductive people. The benefits, such as they are, are best enjoyed in moderation. But legalization has resulted in a whole new class of junkies that wouldn't have existed otherwise. Also, weed culture is gross.

Scott, as always, says it best:

My views evolved in something like the way Steve implicitly points at here: decriminalizing marijuana seemed to go okay, it seemed hypocritical and dumb for the law to be “marijuana is illegal but we won’t punish you for it in any way wink wink”, so (I thought) why not go all the way and legalize it? And the answer turns out to be: if it’s illegal but tolerated, then it’s supplied by random criminals; if it’s legal, it’s supplied by big corporations. And big corporations are good at advertising and tend to get what they want.

In any case, what were you wrong about?

I was wrong about God.

I was wrong about my chronic pain being mechanical, when it turned out to be psychological/emotional.

I was wrong about communism being the best thing ever, then later I was wrong about thinking we should RETVRN to a simpler time.

I was wrong about thinking that just because someone has meditated a lot they are perfect along other axes.

I was wrong about the importance of family in life.

I was wrong about the importance of length in terms of a relationship or friendship.

I was wrong in thinking that all women were whores who gave shit tests and only cared about status and looks.

I was wrong about thinking ADHD was just a moral failing and people used it as an excuse to not get their shit together.

I was wrong about how easy it is to have a well-behaved/trained dog, or child.

The list goes on and on.

Could you please elaborate on realizations that you find most important? I'm curious about God and communism, for example!

Well I was an atheist for most of my youth. I've said the story here a few times but... basically I had a really tough experience with Buddhism. Studied it very deeply for over a decade, then had a destabilizing anatta or no-self experience.

Long story short, events in my life made me think more deeply about Christianity, I went to an Orthodox Divine Liturgy, and it blew me away. I kept struggling with it, and here 2 years later I'm about to get baptized.

In terms of communism, I was a fairly standard college communist. Started studying history and philosophy, and began to realize how horribly wrong things had gone in the past with communism. That changed my mind over time.

I went to an Orthodox Divine Liturgy, and it blew me away.

Yep. That first Latin Mass (or Chuch Slavonic for the Orthdox homies) gets you all fired up to retake the holy land.

I never went full retard atheist, but definitely drifted for a big part of my 20s. I am 100% convinced that this was because I grew up in a Novus Ordo setting. Latin Mass is beauty, strength, and Truth.

Latin Mass is beauty, strength, and Truth.

Interesting, do you have a functional understanding of Latin, or is the ritual more important than the message?

You get a latin-english and follow along. The good ones have kneel/stand/sit directions. This creates an understanding of the Mass in Latin, though it would be inaccurate to say you have any real control of the language. Prayers in Latin help as well.

The ceremony is so much better. A big issue with Novus Ordo masses is that they have an odd 1970s folk musical esthetic. Acoustic guitars and piano. "Hymns" that are woo-woo and highly emotive. Combine this with an all around casual disposition - A lot of altarboys don't actually know the order of mass and respond to subtle cues from the priest.

At a good Latin Mass, especially a High Latin Mass, all of the altarboys have been drilled on the order of mass and know their movements to a "T." It's a similar vibe, in my opinion, to a silent drill platoon. The garments are more elaborate and so it conveys a deeper seriousness to everything.

or is the ritual more important than the message?

Always had been.

Church Latin is not language spoken of streets of first and second century Rome. It is much older, it is formal ritual religious language used in Roman worship long before Christianity.

Christians saw no problem in appropriating this pagan language to worship Christ, just as later, when they had power to do it, eagerly reused old pagan temples as churches.

See work of Christine Mohrmann

Of course, this is historical detail you will learn only on obscure traditional Catholic places, because it torpedoes the whole purpose of Second Vatican council. The liturgy was never meant to be "vernacular", comprehensible to the ordinary plebs.

https://web.archive.org/web/20150912021156/http://liturgicalnotes.blogspot.co.uk/2015/09/mohrmann-1.html