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Culture War Roundup for the week of October 7, 2024

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Kamala's word salad causes prediction market meltdown?

https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1843450980291010656

Question: "What does success look like in ending the war in Ukraine?"

Answer: "There will be no success in ending that war without Ukraine and the UN Charter participating in what that success looks like."

I guess she could be referring to Article 2(4)?

All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any State, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations.

Even with a positively colossal steelman it's hard to understand what she's saying, charters cannot participate in successes. I think she doesn't really mean anything by this statement. It's what Gary Marcus says about LLMs, how they're just spinning word associations around.

She then continues on to repeat fairly standard US rhetoric 'we're not going to do a deal without Ukraine at the table' and dodges the question of NATO membership. None of it is particularly adept politician-speak IMO, she could do with lessons on muddying the issue.

How hard would it have been to say 'we want a free, democratic Ukraine with 1991 borders' or if they want 2014 borders, why not say that? Or if territory is too sensitive to talk about, just say 'we want a free and democratic Ukraine, a Russia that isn't going to be invading any more countries, deterrence for all America's enemies'? It was a pretty easy question!

It's not just that, there's more:

https://x.com/ClayTravis/status/1843449294008836567

She's asked about whether it was a mistake to let illegal immigration rise so dramatically and fails to dodge the question. She could've said 'oh there are enforcement problems since it's a big border' or given a distracting pre-prepared anecdote about one of the challenges they faced. She just says 'oh we have been offering solutions, solutions are at hand and we'll make more solutions on day one, when I'm elected!"

Here's a bigger chunk of the video, each minute I watch there's all this word salad and flailing question-dodging:

https://x.com/ThisIsJnored/status/1843473339085631770

For instance, at about 1:50 there's a question about the extensive US military aid to Israel and whether the Biden Harris administration is capable of putting any pressure on the Netanyahu govt.

Her answer: the work that we do diplomatically, with the leadership of Israel is an ongoing pursuit around making clear our principles.

Him: But it seems that Prime Minister Netanyahu is not listening.

Her: We're not going to stop pursuing what is necessary for the United States to be clear about where we stand on the need for this war to end.

She does say something substantive from time to time, carefully implying that the alliance is between the American people and the Israeli people, not with Netanyahu. She uses a proper technique like 'the real question is...' there which makes her look more in control. But it's still a pretty bad performance overall.

Presumably this is why polymarket has gone from parity to 53-46 in Trump's favour): https://polymarket.com/event/presidential-election-winner-2024?tid=1728364599343

And then there's the editing! I think whatever portion of the interview they're releasing is the most flattering stuff they could get. How else do you explain this: https://x.com/LangmanVince/status/1842964122553761982

He asks the same question "but it seems Prime Minister Netanyahu is not listening" with the exact same head movements (from a slightly different camera angle) and she gives a different answer, even more full of spaghetti:

Well Bill, the work that we have done has resulted in a number of... movements in that region by Israel that were very much prompted by or a result of many things including our advocacy for what needs to happen in the region.

What's going on here? Am I missing something basic? Kamala's answer isn't coherent either way but it's vaguely related to the question, was it edited from something else? This is why you should just give clear answers that specifically engage the question. Not interchangeable babble with with six clauses to a sentence.

I feel concerned (not only because I've placed bets that Donald Trump will lose the popular vote since I thought it was a dead sure thing) but also because this is the apparent calibre of American leadership. Even if we assume that Elite Human Capital or the Deep State is running the show, why can't these people find a decent media spokesperson? How hard can it be?

Apologies for how much of this post is rhetorical questions, twitter links and transcription, I'm truly confused by the whole thing. I also feel like people should know what I'm linking to, they should be able to scan the link with their own eyes and know to nitter or whatever if they don't have an account.

Edit: https://x.com/mazemoore/status/1843664856446316758 (this shows the editing they did somewhat more clearly)

Are there any popular interviewers in the US that are known for playing hardball with their guests and not letting them get away with a non-answer? Is there a chance one of them could interview at least one of the candidates?

How hardball can you really get? The man asked her the same question three times. If she can't answer it in a coherent way with three at-bats it is unlikely she'll be able to come up with anything more coherent if you ask her this question ten more times, and it's evidence enough of whatever qualities an interview is supposed to show. He who has ears, let him listen.

How hardball can you really get? The man asked her the same question three times.

Start asking closed questions, for example.

What is a closed question?

A question that has a finite set of possible answers. Yes/no questions are the most common form, but asking for a name or a number is a closed question as well.

What is the point? This isn't a CIA black site, ve don't have vays of making you talk. It's already obvious she's dodging the question.

Also I hate to be pedantic but a question with a number for an answer doesn't have a finite set of answers.

I lied, I don't hate to be pedantic.