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naraburns  nihil supernum  5mo ago (text post)   27912 thread views

U.S. Election (Day?) 2024 Megathread

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With Harris shaping up to receive 10-15 million fewer votes than Biden in 2020, has anyone here updated with regards to the chance of fraud in 2020? This graph is floating around Twitter: https://x.com/zerohedge/status/1854144250562429081

Is Harris truly so unpopular that 15 million Democrats just stayed home? Or was the overwhelming shift to mail-in ballots in 2020 the key to Biden's victory, giving barely motivated Dems an opportunity to fill in a ballot and mail it out rather than drag themselves to the polls? Republicans in several swing states managed to pass legislation tightening voting laws -- maybe that helped? Or is America simply not ready for a woman president (much less a "black" woman president)?

The election has caused me to update against the election theft theories more or less completely. It requires an extremely specific and absurdly narrow theory of the case for TPTB to have the ability and will to steal 2020 but not 2024 (or 2016), particularly when 2024 is clearly more important. No one really did anything to change the voting environment, no one was jailed or prosecuted for voter fraud, so they just decided not to do it this year? Unserious theory at this point.

While such a theory exists, I've never seen anyone propose it, so even if they started to I'd call it Texas Sharpshooter energy and move on.

Trump winning is proof that democracy works.

the case for TPTB to have the ability and will to steal 2020 but not 2024 (or 2016)

My theory on 2016 has long been that Hillary's hubris led her to tell Bill and the party bigwigs that she'd win by 50 points even without cheating, and they said "LOL, okay then, you go, girl!"

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