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naraburns  nihil supernum  6mo ago (text post)   28020 thread views

U.S. Election (Day?) 2024 Megathread

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Might be interesting to see how Democrats square the circle of "Trump is a fascist who will end American democracy if elected, but we are going to concede peacefully to him now".

I assume it's going to be by the standard method of just ignoring it and pretending there is no contradiction.

Biden congratulated Trump and invited him to the White House:

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-congratulates-trump-phone-call-invites-meeting-white-house/story?id=115560662

This happened hours before Kamala Harris concession speech. Which is starting right now in this second:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=0ASIeYMfh14

Boy would I love to see some accountability from the people who insisted there was no way Trump would be allowed to win the election.

I'm afraid the best you can expect is the goalposts moving to "the deep state won't let him do anything anyway". (Which, maybe, but why wasn't that the initial line?)

I've been arguing against the blackpill crowd for years now, but this is your reminder that Trump missed having his brainstem clipped by a sniper who his bodyguards studiously ignored until after he'd fired eight or so times.

I'm not sure I see the relevance. Obviously Trump isn't an immortal. Winning the election was not guaranteed, and neither is taking office, and neither is achieving any policy goals or staying in office very long. I only mean that I have seen a lot of introspection from the people who thought Kamala would win on the merits and zero introspection from people who thought that Kamala would win via subterfuge. They have simply moved to bailey.

Let me highlight the relevant part then: who his bodyguards studiously ignored until after he'd fired eight or so times.

Trump being alive right now is a low-probability event, and a significant part of the reason it is a low-probability event is conspicuous, inexplicable and extremely suspicious inaction on the part of federal agents in the face of a deadly threat. The events in Butler have not been remotely adequately explained, and one of the obvious potential explanations is that the deep state made a good try at having him killed.

(This being said, I also am waiting for the blackpill crew to update based on this new information.)

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