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There was a recent suicide in India by a fairly competent ML engineer due to divorce rape. He uploaded his note and a 90-minute video on rumble for everyone to see where he detailed how the Indian legal system ensured he dies. The note is in English, the video in Hindi. Twitter has some tweets that give you some details in case you want a quick summary, this, this, this and it even got mainstream coverage. You can read more about the MRA fold run in india by following this lady.

Marriage here are extra fucked. If the wife commits suicide in the first 7 years, the groom and his family get charged. Similarly, the bride can always file the dowry act and get the groom and his family jailed. Since this is India, most of these cases are just women fucking over the guy since this is a low-trust society, this is despicable given these cases make actual events of barbarism harder to punish due to long backlogs.

In this case, the judge wanted the guy to pay a few hundred thousand dollars, not rupees, and asked the victim to pay her 5 hundred thousand inr (6k usd). Cases here are stuck in judicial purgatory, no one trusts or has ever trusted the judiciary and most if not everyone runs under the belief that bribing is the only sane option. Our victim here directly named the judge, his wife and wrote a section dedicated to his young son who wont get to have his dad around.

I am uploading some parts of his harrowing note in English for the benefit of other mottizens. I am unmarried and my mother always warned me of such things even as a child, though I am quite aware of how grim things can be, I found this to be fairly depressing.

Instance 1 of Instigation for Suicide

Date: March 21, 2024
Place: Principal Family Court Judge - Rita Kaushik Judge Cabin

Prior to my cross-examination scheduled to happen after lunch, I arrived at the Principal Family Judge courtroom. I was called into Judge Rita Kaushik's cabin by Peshkar Madhav, where my wife, Nikita Singhania, was already present. Below is the conversation that took place:

Judge: Why don't you settle this case?

Me: Ma'am, they were initially demanding 1 crore INR (approximately $120,000 USD), and after your interim maintenance order, they are now demanding 3 crore INR (approximately $360,000 USD).

Judge: Then you must have 3 crore INR. That's why they are asking for it.

Me: Ma'am, please look at the petition; see the accusations they have made against me and my family. They have filed numerous cases. They are not allowing me to meet my child. She has left the house herself. She is harassing me and my family. I have to travel from Bangalore to Jaunpur.

Judge: So what if they filed cases? She is your wife.

Me: Ma'am, if you look at the NCRB data, many people are committing suicide due to false cases.

Nikita Singhania: Then why don’t you commit suicide too?

Judge: (Laughs) and asks my wife to go outside.
Judge: These cases are all false. This is how it happens. Think about yourself and your family. Settle these cases. We will help you.

Me: Okay, Ma'am, suggest something. But I don’t have that much money.

Judge: We will adjust; I will take 5 lakh INR (approximately $6,000 USD) and I will get it settled here in this court. It’s a very reasonable amount; you earn that much money. Nikita will adjust too. Otherwise, you and your parents will be running around in court for life.

Me: Ma'am, I don’t have that much money. We have all the evidence; so many things came out during my wife's cross-examination. You should hear our case on merit.

Judge: Alright, we will hear your case on merit. You may go outside.

Instance 2 of Instigation for Suicide

JUSTICE IS DUE
Date: April 10, 2024
Place: Outside Principal Family Court, Jaunpur
After opposing the Judge's unilateral order against me regarding compliance with Rajnish Vs Neha filed on the same date without giving me a chance to file a reply, I came out of the courtroom where my mother-in-law Nisha Singhania tried to provoke me.

Nisha Singhania: (chuckling) Oh, you haven’t committed suicide yet? I thought today I would hear about your suicide; you said you would do it that day in front of the judge.

Me: If I die, how will your party continue?

Nisha Singhania: (smiling) It will still continue. Your father will provide the money. Everything belongs to the wife when her husband dies. After your death, your parents will also die soon after; then there’s also a share for the daughter-in-law in that too. Your entire family will be running around in court their whole lives.

I've noticed a trend lately where TLC's on the culture war roundup are increasingly dominated by Indian issues and things that only Indians would be concerned about, and it’s becoming hard to ignore. I don't believe it's malevolent for Indian users to bring up topics relevant to their country, however there’s a real risk that the entire site starts to tilt toward Indian concerns, removing what was once sacred about this place. (Sheer volume notwithstanding)

Completely fair. I have posted about India thrice, twice if you talk about simply local events here. Indiaposting does get tiring.

My aim is mostly to point out some other worldly acts of social justice combined with corruption. I used to find headlines, absurd ones about courts in England letting go of obvious criminals due to these reasons, this is kind of like that.

Divroce rape is a very common thing, I learnt about it first from MRAs in the anglosphere. Never quite expected any news from my nation be talked about people beyond just the locals.

I wouldn't mind hearing more about gender dynamics in India, particularly as it relates to your personal experiences if you have anything more to share. It's admittedly pretty amusing to scroll through the twitter of 6FeetChadAryan and see beta vs. chad dynamics, gynocracy and boomers mentioned in between references to Hindu mythology like this. I'm curious about the references to Dowry Act. Are dowries still common, even in urban areas among upwardly mobile/educated people like the engineer in question?

Dowries are highly variable in commonality across India these days, and at least de jure illegal.

It's quite common to see them not even raised, but just as often, it's things like the family of the bride buying something along the lines of an apartment or a car for the new couple, or offering "gifts".

I wouldn't mind hearing more about gender dynamics in India

I'll write something original soon then lol, they are fucked here

I'm curious about the references to Dowry Act. Are dowries still common, even in urban areas among upwardly mobile/educated people like the engineer in question?

Very, earlier, you didn't have banks so a father would send his daughter off to get married and the division of property was only done among male heirs, dowry was money that was sent to help the bride and the groom out. Post 1947, traditional society broke down, dowry became more inflated so did wedding expenditure as people used them both to signal.

Nowadays it's still a thing, parents of the bride send money out of their own goodwill in a lot of cases but at the same time most cases of it are well and truly evil. Most people here aren't nice, they extort the bride so the laws are 100 percent in the right theoretically. It's that the low trust, scarcity based society leads to people literally scamming others.

In most urban upper middle class or higher cases, the dowry is voluntary and not a super significant amount of the girls parents assets. It's a way to signal status and many communities don't practice it. Otoh, urban middle class uses these laws the most for extortion.

It's admittedly pretty amusing to scroll through the twitter of 6FeetChadAryan and see beta vs. chad dynamics, gynocracy and boomers mentioned in between references to Hindu mythology like this

Lol, Hindu twitter is not the smartest, it's quite stale but it's super funny at times. I used to be a hallowed anon poster until I quit in 2021 out of frustration.