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Culture War Roundup for the week of February 24, 2025

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My impression of historical US-Euro relations is that while realpolitik was always an important component, there was a sense of shared ideology (liberal democracy) and cultural history that strengthened the bond relative to, say, US-Egyptian or US-Indonesian relations. We were the "free countries," we were the "Western nations," and until recently, we were "Christian nations." However, mass immigration, multiculturalism and its consequent curtailing of civil liberties, and militant secularism and progressivism seem to have severely weakened those identies in Europe and made room new identities to assert themselves.

I see US-Euro relations decaying to the more transactional relations that the U.S. has with culturally alien countries. European countries making noises about cozying up to China sounds bizarre when operating under the assumption that the old identities hold, but it actually makes sense if Europeans now simply view China and America as two ideologically-alien superpowers who offer different sets of incentives and obligations and who can be played off one another for benefit.

I think a lot of the outrage about "European ingratitude" from the American right is caused by right wingers failing to realize that European 2025 is not the Europe of 1950, or even 1990. Many Europeans seem to already view America as ideologically alien and thus view the relationship as totally transactional. It would be like expressing gratitude to your ISP for providing internet service after you sign a contract and pay your bill. Trump's more transactional approach aligns with this new reality, and so it's probably a good thing -- unless you're an American progressive, in which case, since you hold religious beliefs in common with European progressives, you probably view this development as needless division and infighting amongst enlightened nations that diverts time and energy away from pushing back the ever-encroaching forces of ignorance and oppression. That said, I sense a rift between American and European progressives as well, mostly in complaints from more traditional European socialists who see American "woke" progressivism as an irrelevant distraction from material problems and/or a form of American political and cultural imperialism. So perhaps even the bonds between progressives on either sides of the Atlantic are fraying and will not be strong enough to maintain a US-Euro relationship beyond the merely transactional.

This explanation is certainly too pat, and there's more nuance to be explored, but do you think this is more or less the direction in which things are heading?

In Sweden we had a mass shooting where a man was kicked off welfare and then decided to kill 10 people at a welfare office before finishing himself. He screamed "not everyone should work" before letting off a few rounds. His energy seems to reflect the European attitude on paying for a military.

Currently the attitude in Sweden is beyond bizarre. John Bolton would be considered a tankie right now. Their, is just fanatical worship of the US military industrial complex combined view of any being in opposition to the US as a fundamentally evil. I have never before seen people justifying the invasion of Iraq and Vietnam at the scale happening now. The average Swede has been turned into a Dick Cheney, except they only see the world as good vs evil.

At the same time as they want complete and utter American domination of every corner of the world they are shitting all over Americans and talking about boycotts. To make matters worse, most people can't give any legitimacy to any other view point. There are true believers in the neo con project, people who are fundamentally evil and those who are brainwashed by Russians.

The same bizarre situation is going on in entire Western Europe. People talking about the need to decouple from the US, so we can defend Taiwan?? I think we are living through one of those periods confusion in history that will be sandpapered by near-term historians in accordance with the developments that takes place by then, only for some guy to open some dusty archives in 70 years and realize "wait a minute actual people 2025 had wildly idiosyncratic ideas that didn't fit at all into the 2039 galactic federation council's ideological splits!!"

The same bizarre situation is going on in entire Western Europe. People talking about the need to decouple from the US, so we can defend Taiwan??

One of the British podcasters I listen to (I don't recall which off the top of my head — maybe Parvini?) characterized this as Starmer and European elites, in response to Trump trying to pull back the US from its global empire, trying to figure out how keep the GAE going without America.

I have heard people talking about wanting to set up a SWIFT-alternative to defend the liberal world order. They basically want to create a woke version of BRICS.

They see American unipolar order as dangerous, so they want to create an alternative one in order to save the ideology of the American liberal world order.

I think a lot of our international politics was controlled by the US establishment, and now that Trump is winding that down theres some weird reactions.

There's also the specter of US soft-blob money (USAID, State, etc.) money drying up so people scrambling for new grifts over to hard-blob (DoD, NATO, security services generally).