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I guess that woman debating Sam Seder is getting more attention, but it pairs well with this other guy who "shredded" Sam Seder.
https://x.com/IamSean90/status/1898979265615409509
In this clip, Sam basically fails to articulate a single moral principle beyond "Well, that's just what our society had decided is right and wrong" and when dude says society can change it's mind over time, Sam's only meek response is "Please don't".
Pair this with lady who points out this whole "melting pot" narrative undermining the Christian European roots of America, and Sam comes off as a guy who's left hand is constantly working to change society (through mass migration and media control) to match his preferences, and who's right hand just shrugs and goes "I donno man, things just happen to be the way I like them because of society or whatever man."
There was a story sold to us growing up that we can accept immigrants who want to work hard, and by working hard make America a better place, but that they will assimilate and the America we experience will not meaningfully change. People will experience diversity of shopping and dining experiences with zero externalities. This story, broadly, got widespread support. This story has also been exposed as a complete falsehood. There is little assimilation, and towns are becoming foreign countries out from under their native residents not in generations, but in election cycles. And the response from our ruling class is basically "Fuck you, you suck, your standard of living is too high and you vote wrong, so we're replacing you on purpose and there is nothing you can do about it." We get a bunch of unprincipled and self serving "America is only an idea man, and ideas can change" rhetoric. But change can cut both ways, and people are waking up to the fact that they are faced with America being changed into a completely foreign country out from under them, or being changed back into a more explicitly Christian European country.
But one way or another, the change is coming. Clinging to the status quo is no longer an option.
I'm not shocked more people are nakedly ethnonationalist. It's the gold standard for all of human history, lots of the world currently still is, and it's the only meaningful alternative being provided to "Just let infinity third worlders have your legacy because you suck". I personally don't think legacy Americans have the vitality or institutional capacity to stop it, though I sincerely hope I'm wrong. The project is going to take a lot longer than another 4 year Trump term.
Nationalism of any kind (including ethno-nationalism) can't be the gold standard for all of human history because nations don't exist until mass literacy and the printing press. Tribalism, based on loyalty to Dunbar-sized groups of actual kin and larger facsimiles thereof was the gold standard for most of human history. But the most successful large tribes - including the Roman Empire and Christian Church, and therefore Western Civilisation, were based on fictive kinship through a shared mythopoetic father-figure, not realish kinship determined by ethnicity.
Ethno-nationalism as a political idea begins as a 19th century small-l liberal project, replacing loyalty to dynastic states. Bismarck comes up with a right-wing version of it which works in the context of Protestant Germany. But in Catholic countries ethno-nationalism is directly opposed to throne-and-altar conservatism, which was the gold standard in early modern Europe.
They’re not mutually exclusive. Romulus, notably, was both a mythical father figure of the Romans and the Latins were a real ethnicity.
I was thinking of the period when the Roman Empire was explicitly multiethnic, during which the deified Emperor was the mythopoetic father figure. The growth of the Roman empire (small 'e' as the process begins under the late Republic) involves a series of extensions of increasing levels of political inclusion (socii, then Latini, then full cives Romani) to people who were increasingly obviously not ethnic Latins.
Fair, but insofar as the republic’s expansion over the Italian peninsula is known about, Romulus as father figure to ethnic Latins dominating the peninsula is a major part of the process.
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