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Culture War Roundup for the week of November 14, 2022

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Would banning loli, or anything else like that, reduce various forms of age-based sex offenses at all though? The meme is 'muh violent video games', but idk, my guess is not much, given how common it is in countries with different levels of popularity.

Well, how I disagree with you is that I don't even just believe that "pedophiles exist" but rather that at least some (much more than comfortable for your average person to admit or acknowledge in themselves or others) pedophilic attraction is nearly universal (at least in masculine sexuality). (I do agree with you that most avowed pedophiles are not only interested in prepubescents, but they are significantly (and usually primarily) interested in them enough that they're not going to give up on sexually indulging in them without a fight you can't win, and since the essence of male sexual attraction is variety anyway it hardly matters if they're only secondarily interested in them too.)

To justify that (other than some seriously buried studies that I'll probably drag out if I can take the effort to find them again), I use plain and simple historical fact. Plenty of historical sources will attest to the fact that most ancient sexual marauders, pillagers, rampagers, etc. acting as perhaps the purest expression of (again, at least masculine) sexuality and vastly under"fed" in regards to any "messaging and content" in comparison to your modern man (who, it seems to me, is the one actually influenced to artificially attempt to tilt his sexuality in an anti-pedophilic direction by "messaging and content"), pretty much had sex with (that is, raped (actual rape, not "statutory rape") by our modern standards, not that I think they thought of it that way or cared) attractive females regardless of age, tending to lean younger (probably more towards early teens, the freshly fertile, but hardly excluding prepubescents).

(And this also applies/applied to somewhat modern but still less modern men, like those participating in the Rape of Nanking for example, or those in modern African conflicts. Really, it seems like whenever men can get away with it (with conflict situations being the easiest avenues), they have a lot of sex with a lot of young girls, including very young ones, in a widespread fashion. I'm not sure how else you explain that other than it being a widely possessed and merely widely suppressed desire.)

to prevent people from consuming it and triggering their own latent pedophilia.

What are you going to do about all of the sexy children walking around in real life then? (Based on my experience in pedo etc. communities over the years, this is at least as common if not more common of a "pedopill" than any media consumption for people.) Universal age-based dress codes (which would probably have to be niqabs to fully frustrate attraction, though that's just going to tempt people more in a different way with the forbidden nature of it)?

And, again, how are you going to stop people from consuming any content without the exact same infrastructure and techniques immediately shutting down all other heterodox communications you care about (presuming you care about at lesat some if you're on here)? Or are you willing to throw everything else on that funeral pyre?

(I will await you trying to stop it though, same as thousands of other people online over the years who have made the same proclamation.)

Others on here will disagree with "You know we are and you can't stop us;" because they will tell you that a 9mm hollowpoint will stop it very well, the Great Day of the Rope for child predators.

[insert "We own guns too."-esque slogan.]

The "Great Day of the Rope" may yet belong to we pedofascists, not our "agecuck" (as is the lingo) counterparts.

I'm not quite that far, but I do think that things like involuntary confinement of those with incurable desires towards children

How do you plan on enforcing that? If it's with objective, involuntary measurements of arousal like penile plethysmography and even half-decent content (especially if you plan on criminalizing attraction to anyone under the age of 18, or even just under the age of 16), then I hope you're prepared to either seriously fudge things/render your own scheme arbitrary and dishonest or lose a significant portion of your male population (like so much that they will probably all just rebel and overthrow you anyway).

(Many underage girls online who post primarily sexualized content have millions of subscribers/followers, and this is with all of the inevitable deplatforming/(shadow)banning etc. of their content, along with that their main audience is often reluctant to explicitly subscribe to/follow them or often even make an account at all. If you actually seriously tried to enforce what you're proposing on a fair, universal basis, again you would soon find yourself overwhelmed with dissenters and rebels (forced into it by the threat of involuntary confinement). It's probably the best guaranteed recipe for regime change I can think of, which is why as an aspiring supporter of a pedofascist regime I kind of wish it would be tried.)

Well, great job incarcerating a vanishingly small percentage of the people you want incarcerated. It still changes not much. (You may note that even the process you participated in generally requires a prior conviction for an actual offense, not mere attraction, so you certainly didn't get to live up to your own daydreams.)

It's all still a small blip on the historical radar. Maybe I'll give you credit as a trailblazer if in 500 years people are still clutching their pearls about men being inevitably sexually attracted to a nice pair of 13 year old tits or a plump, tight 12 year old ass, but a quick look around TikTok pretty much proves that the dam of social disapproval on that subject probably can't hold forever. For decades more probably, yes, especially since we're still in the age of cancellation terror. But natural desire usually tends to win in the long run. You can brutalize Mother Nature, but nobody's killed her yet.

Lots think they have great opsec, once they get anywhere near the judicial state apparatus it always comes out.

I'll give you the credit of assuming that you know how massive of a selection bias this is.

On the one hand Mastercard can cut them off with no consequences

We never used Mastercard lad.

on the other they are so numerous and organized that if you push them too far they will overthrow the government

I never said there was any organization. There's not. In the event your harebrained scheme was ever widely implemented, most of the people ending up on my side (including quite likely you eventually, again assuming it were universal/honest and not an arbitrary grift which it probably would be) would be horrified by it. Many would probably convince themselves that they weren't actually on it and the machines had made a big mistake, and that's why they were fighting back (and this narrative might be what would let the whole thing be shut down or downsized to sanity while allowing the regime to save face). But if they were facing imprisonment, they wouldn't have much of a choice.

It's not a "violent pedo fantasy". Violent is being such a dedicated, self-denying stooge for feminist agecuckoldry that you idly fantasize about incarcerating vast swathes of the population for nearly universal sexual inclinations. Saying "Wow if you did that then you'd have a really big, aggressive problem on your hands." in response is just basic logic.

Dial down the antagonism. You're taking a highly contentious position and so unsurprisingly you are taking some heat, and I'll cut you some slack for that, but you still need to respond to people civilly and without rancor.

I appreciate your treatment of me as perhaps the ultimate Olmec.

Literally what I did with my time professionally.

Explain please. What were you doing, who were you engaging with?

I want to point out the humor of the next top level post below this one beginning with the words “I liked it before it was cool”

I am sorely disappointed the post was deleted and I won’t receive any credit for this

I don't see that at all actually (or even my own post) but hey.

Whoops, this is actually because I somehow managed to make a top-level post instead of a reply to something else as it was supposed to be.

(On further inspection, this seems to be because (confusingly, at least to me), even when you explicitly have a particular subthread open in an isolated view, with the page title saying "@X comments on blah blah blah", the immediately visible comment box at the top of the page still top level posts to the not-at-all visible-in-such-a-view main thread, though I instinctively assumed it would instead respond to the particular subthread opened. It seems to me like this top box should either be removed or changed in function.)

This is where I meant to post.