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Wellness Wednesday for June 4, 2025

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I am in my mother's hometown, a very small town in north Madhya Pradesh next to Gwalior, another small town and life here is bad because small Indian towns are unhygienic, poor and there is hopelessness among people due to a lack of industrialisation. I don't have much family on my dad's side but have a lot on my mom's, it's my first visit in two years and though my productivity took a massive hit in the month before I came, I'm not going bars on work because I don't wanna miss out time with my family here.

The big silver lining is that even this run down deindustrialized town that lacks basic public hygiene has a dingy powerlifting and Olympic lifting (weightlifting) gym. It's run by self taught dudes, both in their 50s who are self taught, the weightlifter learning the lifts on his own in pre internet times was mind blowing. The powerlifter is the more serious competitor of the two now and totals 400 kgs plus at 74 kg.

This was the first gym I've seen that had dedicated lifting platforms, people wearing lifting shoes. These two act like coaches and the weightlifter chews oral tobacco during his sets. I never squatted or deadlifted out of injury fears, I do multiple reps of the these with bench press and some dumbell rows daily to get eh technique down. I'll be doing more squats tomorrow. Learning the lifts, competing successfully as an amateur after you stated in your 30s, having students who do all this before they turn 30 us a great fest, I really appreciate the agency.

My visit has also made me appreciate what I have a lot. The dysfunctional family dynamics I see in my own house are very mild when you consider the situation here. Life has a lot of good to offer, I'm grateful for what I have and I will miss my relatives when I leave. My grandmother is 92 and still helps with household chores, I'd happily trade a lot more than just 10 days of productivity to be with her. Have a good week.

deindustrialized

Why did it deindustrialize?

Pajeet actions are beyond comprehension. Everyone wants a kickback and the social distrust is so extreme that most things break down. You see less flowing rivers and more actual rivers of literal drainage in small towns here as bureaucrats, the politicians and even the industrialists have no stake in the smaller cities they don't live in.

If they do live here, making a change means you get martyred and your kids lead unsafe lives as any meddling beyond a point shakes the foundations of everything else. It's an accepted fact here literally everything, everyone is corrupt. If you're a smart person, you sell your soul for stem exams like the Asians as you can at most only ever be a nerd so might as well do that abroad.

Due to ever growing red tape and more bio leninists winning, setting up an industry means you end up paying more than half your budget in just kickbacks. A big reason behind Indians abusing h1bs is that these people couldn't conceive the growth of computers so could not stifle their growth, after enough growth, the owners of these firms simply used these pajeet tendencies agaisnt others. So the Indian it service companies that write worse code than gpt 2 like Wipro, Cognizant etc (they are called WITCH like FAGMAN in the US) ensured that they get a free hand but no one else enters India.

The older industrial families in India also played a huge role by going along with the government which led to a bad sort of monopoly. Ultimately, it's a lot of these anger inducing evil things that I can't precisely condense down coherently that ensured we stay as poor as Africa.

Also remember, Gandhi deserves a lot of blame too since he like Nehru and every other Indian elite at the time was a socialist. So Indians took away land from feudal families to redistribute it to peasants which also cut the yields. Norman Borlaug was given the name annadaata (giver of grains) because his tech saved close to a billion lives. The thought of rival elites and hick peasants who don't wish to move beyond agriculture left land here fractured so even agriculture could not modernize itself.

So a disdain for any rivals, poor iq of peasant class, literal socialist common born elites and having zero skin in the game led to this thing. Today, the Indian Foreign Minister and Defence Secretary have sons who are US citizen. I don't expect people down the ladder to have much care for their homeland if the best are uppgo upto this.

Indians always blame other Indians. When you ask Indians why India has to be so dirty, squalid, poor, emaciated cows in the street, no hygiene in cooking, even $1000 hotel rooms or $5000 Air India first class seats grimy and disgusting, they always blame other Indians. The upper castes blame the lower castes, the lower castes blame the upper castes and often each other. You can’t fix it because then “village people will just destroy it again”. There is no will, there is no program for change. I respect that (unlike certain other peoples) they at least accept responsibility on a national level, but that is still no solution.

If India needs to be saved, someone needs to seize power and exert force on their own countrymen. India is historically an easy place to conquer, the British ruled it with only 12-15,000 men. The military was humiliated in the recent bout with Pakistan and they’re not going to nuke their own people (and you say the army is mostly upper castes too, so would hardly be opposed), I don’t see why an Indian couldn’t do it. The real conundrum is why the BJP don’t just end democracy. No major constituency stands against them. It’s clear the lower castes are not advanced enough to vote. If Congress socialist elites kick up a fuss, they can be exiled to America and Britain.

But someone needs to end the squalor. Every building needs to be repainted and plastered in vernacular colors every 2-3 years. Littering needs to be punished with some form of public humiliation. Wild animals should not be allowed to roam in public. Hygiene standards should be rigorously enforced. Random piles of dirt, construction materials and so on need to result in extreme fines for landowners, up to confiscation. Driving laws strictly enforced. Violation of basic civilized standards of behavior should again be public humiliation. Failure to leave a public facility clean should likewise result in extreme punishments. Those disgusting peasant farmers protesting in favor of their price fixing handouts and unmechanised family farms need to be forcibly expropriated and replaced by large scale industrial farming for goods sold at market prices, with any resistance crushed with extreme force. Do this and in 20 years India is mostly fixed.

The military was humiliated in the recent bout with Pakistan and they’re not going to nuke their own people (and you say the army is mostly upper castes too, so would hardly be opposed

That's objectively untrue, you may have had some jet losses but Pakistan saw it's airbase blown apart at which point the US intervened. It may have been a neutral stalemate at best or a loss of face for India in western media but it wasn't humiliating given that Pakistan got a third of its bases blown out in a five hours and had to get the US to intervene.

The other parts of the comment are completely true. The brits could rule over due to better tech and better cooperation. India suffers the ills of bioleninism but without the industrial base of the west. The west has gotten worse, so Indian society coming apart isn't surprising for me. I agree with most observations, someone needs to step up and do so soon. The Indo Aryan remains will die out a painful death otherwise. Everyone smart I know lives beyond our borders. My family didn't leave because they had land, they state took away that anchor from me.

The real conundrum is why the BJP don’t just end democracy. No major constituency stands against them. It’s clear the lower castes are not advanced enough to vote. If Congress socialist elites kick up a fuss, they can be exiled to America and Britain.

This is incorrect, they lost seats Las election and all of Indian politics is based on caste vote banks, so people can would switch parties, it's a W for bjp in terms of total seats but it means that the same person is still your local minister. It's like why the UK doesn't simply kick out of most of its welfare leeching immigrants who have formed rape gangs. Upper castes are after all a much smaller portion than heritage Americans or Englishmen.

What can I do personally? I thought about it, so far every answer requires me to get rich which is what I'm trying for now. There's a term chakravartin which is used for emperors who united parts of the fractured land and the they'd would do horse sacrifices wherein a horse would roam around land randomly, if you're an opposing ruler and the horse is allowed to roam, you accept the emperor, if you stop the horse, a fight happens. The last horse sacrifice of this kind was done in Jaipur by Jai Singh the second but at a smaller scale, 4 hundred years is a long time. We need another one soon.