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Culture War Roundup for the week of November 28, 2022

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Rhodesia is an interesting case in that it is a 60 year old mirror of modern day progressivism. White rule is unacceptable, for equality's sake we will support Mr. Mugabe. We all know how it turned out, but that hasn't stopped the same thing from happening 30 years later in South Africa.

My question is, who at the time was the major force against Rhodesia? Was it the UK and/or Harold Wilson, was it the US and/or Lyndon Johnson? Was it instead a political party? Were these governments happy with the end result, or did they ever say that they made a mistake with Rhodesia? I would guess not, given that they continue to do the same things. Anyone have any extra insight on the who and the why for the putting down the most effective African regimes, which just happened to be white?

for equality's sake we will support Mr. Mugabe

I didn't research this myself, but I've heard it asserted that Rhodesian army killed all the sensible moderate black leaders and the horrible monster Mugabe was the one who survived and ultimately took control. There were options other than "minority white rule or suffering under Mugabe". But they were all shot to death.

Edit: apparently not. I know Robert Evans asserted this twice. Don’t believe everything you hear in podcasts.

I was under the impression that Mugabe was the one who forced out/marginalized all his former liberationist comrades after the establishment of Zimbabwe, so perhaps both sides are at fault.

The winner of the first election was Abel Muzorewa, a moderate who the US didn't like. Mugabe won the election after they were forced to redo it.

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