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Culture War Roundup for the week of June 9, 2025

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No, this is not cute or clever.

We're still formulating exactly what our AI policy is, but we've certainly made it clear before that posting LLM output without declaring it to be so, especially as an attempt at a "gotcha," is low effort and not actual discourse. Consider this a formal warning, and we're likely to just start banning people who do this in the future.

is low effort

Hey, it took me more work generating 5 different paragraphs and then selecting and arranging the sentences to use than it would have to write the paragraph in the first place...

Isn't there a case to be made for an exception here? It's not some cheap "gotcha", there's an actual relevant point to be made when you fail to spot the AI paragraph without knowing you're being tested on it. The fact that @self_made_human did catch it is interesting data! To me, it's similar to when Scott would post "the the" (broken by line breaks) at random to see who could spot it.

There are benefits, but the harm is "now 100% of the time you are second-guessing whether you're reading an LLM". That's the death knell for serious engagement, because there is no point engaging with an LLM. There are plenty of not-theMotte places to make this point.

We do not want to play "spot the LLM."

May I request that it be in the policy that posts that are "check out this LLM" without any other sort of culture-war significance be made in some other thread?

I think a loooong effortpost should be allowed to have 1 paragraph of aislop as long as it's not relevant to the argument and can be deleted without hurting it. It would be a fun challenge for aihunters to find it. Maybe with a disclosure or something.

Disclosure after slop is barely better than none; before should be required if this is to be allowed at all.

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