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I read the new ACX Review post about Alpha School (by an anonymous writer, not Scott). It was well written, but a bit of a slog, because it's quite long for an essay, but not as polished as a book. Some thoughts:
The author (seemingly not scott) seems absolutely deranged. He outlined how he was being abused and exploited by some shitty yet expensive sjw private school yet still groveled to their admin when they vaguely threatened to kick him out for complaining too hard.
If you don't leave after hearing this, you're the school's bitch and paypig. You should never expect them to listen to or do a single thing for you ever again.
He directly says that the main benefit of his abusive provate school is that it lacks undesirables in the student body. Dude bussing is over just move to a better district using the savings from not paying insane tuition.
Then when his shitty private school was going through some changes, he wanted out, and could only say there were no good options and was thinking of staying anyways. Dude your kids are less than 10 just go to normal school.
What the fuck, your kid is in fourth grade!!! She should be playing in the woods with other kids not training to get into a feeder school like it's the olympics!
Going to a "normal" school with "mid" teachers is sooooooo bad. Instead I'm gonna take my kids to travel the world.
Apparently having his kids growing up in a school where a few of the best teachers quit is "stagnation". Just going to a normal school must be absolutely ruinous to all of the victims who don't have insane parents like the author.
CPS should be going after people like this for child abuse if anyone.
Your comment inspired me to skim the article.
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Virgin “but but my academic data breakdowns” father vs. Chadette head of school.
It also reminds me of the "Dick Flattening / Yes Honey" meme: "It's 4PM! Time for your groveling session."
One might be tempted to call the author weak, pathetic, spineless, a bitch. However, in some ways he has more mental fortitude than I do. I'm not sure how I could live with myself after getting bent over so hard by a school administrator of all people.
The article too gave me some "Most of What You Read on the Internet is Written by Insane People" vibes. The author mentioned that:
I wonder how or from where else the daughter's anxious personality might had been acquired?
Seeing the hoops that the first private school made them jump through just to get their kids in, the headmistress could well afford to have the attitude "we fire you, you don't quit" towards the parents. Let them take their kid out and leave, that just opens up a gap for the next affluent, anxious, and aspirational parents on the waiting list to get their little budding genius in. Demand definitely outstripped supply, even at that level of fees.
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Honestly, aside from the non binary thing, this basically reads what I vaguely learned at that age in the 90’s.
It took me into my 20’s to think about that the water I use here has no effect on the Chinese (why not African??) kids with no water.
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