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PaperclipPerfector  3mo ago (text post)   2289 thread views

Friday Fun Thread for June 27, 2025

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What The Motte theme are you running?

I'm usually partial to blue (dramblr).

There are themes?

I remember there are themes every time I get logged out and my retinas are seared. Dark mode has spoiled the shit out of me.

I honestly can't relate to people who complain about not-dark mode. I don't find it hard on the eyes at all, so it's difficult for me to understand how anyone could be so fervently bothered by it. To each their own I suppose.

I'm being hyperbolic of course, because I was making a joke - it's a minor thing, but it actually physically hurts when you go from darkness to bright light. Like after taking off sunglasses or getting high beamed on the highway.

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