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Wellness Wednesday for July 16, 2025

The Wednesday Wellness threads are meant to encourage users to ask for and provide advice and motivation to improve their lives. It isn't intended as a 'containment thread' and any content which could go here could instead be posted in its own thread. You could post:

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Do you know anyone who has 'self radicized' online, and then returned to normal?

I used to think self radicalization was a meme until I saw it happening to someone close to me.

It's not even that there's no truth to the root of her complaints it's that viewing the world and your interactions though a lens of 'white erasure' and 'white well-being' doesn't really provide a useful or helpful narrative to act on. To me it's just the inverse of other popular victimization narratives.

We can't seem to have a pleasant evening out without;

You've your boot on the neck of Germany, holding us down.

We don't live in Germany and haven't for ~20 years.

Any similar experiences?

Who is this booted "you", who's "us" in that quote? Needs more context.

But to answer the question: No. Fortunately. The radicals I know have been radicalized as much by the IRL water they swim in as by online propaganda. This means that the radicalization is both somewhat attenuated by the need to be IRL-compatible and sadly precludes a return to normal because radical is the normal, as said, water they swim it. It's socially acceptable to spew wild theories about Russian or American or Chinese intelligence agencies doing god-knows-what, about the Rich planning to eat us all, about foreigners wanting to skin us alive, about elites not being happy until we live in the pod and eat the bug, about how the planet is doomed and we're all going to die by tomorrow, about how the vaccines / the environmental toxins / the microplastics / the heavily processed food is giving us cancer / making us infertile / turning the frogs gay. Just pick the right flavor for a given audience and you're off to the races.

And some of those theories may well be right, but epistemic humility is thoroughly out of fashion. I do see people go off and and get worked up until they call for race war now gas the kikes / revolution now eat the rich shoot the nazi politicans / deindustrialize now voluntary human extinction save the planet before it's too late. I don't see people talk each other down with anything that even directionally resembles "Wait, that's hyperbole. Have we considered the counterargument?".

I don't think she meant me specifically, but America / 'Jews' / whoever is white erasing 'western kind'. In this instance the 'us' I think is Germans or Germanic people, but the specifics on these are often fuzzy when pressed.

There's not much opportunity for IRL radicalization in our community or social groups.

Strangely I think I'd mind actual National Socialism less, at least there's a political ideology and the aesthetics are better.

This guy has a horrible aesthetic https://x.com/NoWhiteGuiltNWG