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Culture War Roundup for the week of July 21, 2025

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And for what it's worth, Russian influence seems more benevolent than US influence.

Why do so many countries desire NATO membership?

Seriously just go read about how the Europeans bordering Russia feel and stop pretending the US is the only actor in the world.

You could try to make the arguments of "cautious" and "beneficial" about China and I'd give you half credit. But about Russia?

Please keep it civil, and make your points without the personal attacks.

I've watched people I identify with (Orthodox Christians) be ethnically cleansed out of the Middle East in my lifetime. The priest who taught me chant fled to the US after having ISIS kill 6 members of his parish in Syria. The USA spent decades aiming to bring down Assad, and for what? What was so bad about Assad? Assad was not Orthodox, but neither was he a persecutor of us.

Russia wanted Syria to be stable so that Christians would be protected and so that they could earn oil profits together. The USA wanted Jihadis to overthrow the Syrian government in order to... in order to...

You know, I'm not sure what the point is. As far as I can tell, it's to line the resumé of some apparatchik in the State Department. Too bad thousands of people have to die and an ancient culture has to be wiped out for that.

I get tired of praying for my friends' family members who are in mortal peril due to US policy choices.

Assad picked bad friends. Some of those friends liked to kill Americans and our allies.

The US didn't really put all that much effort into taking out Assad. Turkey did.

You know, a major reason that the Assad regime fell was the combo of both Russia and Iran having to reduce support in order to fight other conflicts.

I get tired of praying for my friends' family members who are in mortal peril due to US policy choices.

Yeah, well, think of all the people in mortal peril due to Russian policy choices. Or Iranian.

Some people pray for US involvement. Consider that their prayers and your prayers cancel out.

If you want to do the moral math, the US comes out looking ok on that front relative to its peers.

The US didn't really put all that much effort into taking out Assad. Turkey did.

Nah, the US oil sanctions were pretty decisive. You can see GDP per capita dive as they go into effect. US support for various jihadists also didn't help. But it was the sanctions that were the killer. I was hopeful that Russian aid could Assad hold on, but it wasn't enough.

IMO the post-Cold War USA record in the Middle East is a giant humanitarian tragedy, and it has wiped out most of the remnants of a Christian culture going back 1900 years. Many other people have made the case, so I'll spare both of us repeating it.