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Anyone else watching the drama play out electing the Speaker in the United States House of Representatives? You can watch for free on C-SPAN. Today is the first day of the 118th Congress and the House's first order of business is electing a Speaker. Normally this is a pro-forma affair and whoever is the leader of their party cruises to victory on their first ballot. The last time a Speaker election went beyond one ballot was 1923, and that was resolved only after five ballots. So far today we've had one ballot in which Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) (the presumptive speaker) has not only failed to win a majority of votes cast and become Speaker, but to win even a plurality of votes in the ballot (the Democrats voted unanimously for Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY)). The current split in the House is 222 Republicans to 212 Democrats. So if every member votes then 218 votes are needed to win and McCarthy can afford to lose just 4 Republican votes (assuming no cross-party-voting). Currently McCarthy is on his way to lose a second ballot, with 19 votes having gone to Jim Jordan (R-OH). On the first ballot McCarthy lost 19 votes, mostly to Andy Biggs (R-AZ) but some to Other. Jordan has already exceeded Biggs total, but the voting isn't finished so it remains to be seen whether more people have fallen in line and voted for McCarthy or if Republicans coalesce around Jordan or some other candidate.

It seems to me the most likely outcome is Republicans eventually fall in line and elect McCarthy, but other outcomes are possible. Republicans could potentially coalesce around another candidate (Jordan seems possible). Since what's required is a majority of all votes cast Jeffries could win if enough Republicans abstain or don't vote, leading to a Dem speaker in a majority Republican house.

It's interesting to look at the drama today through the lens of the common complaints about infighting among the Democrats and the left. For all that discussion it seems the Democratic Party has gotten behind Jeffries as Pelosi's replacement in short order, while Republicans can't seem to reach consensus on who should be their leader in the House.

ETA:

At the end of the second ballot the results stand at:

Jeffries - 212

McCarthy - 203

Jordan - 19

This means McCarthy picked up no votes between first and second ballot. All the votes that went to Biggs/Other on the first ballot went to Jordan on the second ballot.

ETA2:

At the end of the third ballot the results stand at:

Jeffries - 212

McCarthy - 202

Jordan - 20

McCarthy now officially losing ground to Jordan. This is kind of funny because Jordan (at least by his own words on the House floor) doesn't want the job and wants McCarthy to have it.

ETA3:

The House just adjourned (Speaker still undecided) until noon tomorrow.

I think people in this thread are underestimating how dysfunctional this is. A party caucus in a legislature isn't just a talking shop for mutually sympathetic legislators - it is an agreement to accept party discipline in order to gain the benefits of power. The whole point of a caucus being in the majority is that the caucus votes internally on issues like who to support for the speakership, and then they all vote the same way. If you can't get the caucus to vote together, then you have a majority in name only. Despite the classic meme status of "I belong to no organised political party - I am a Democrat", the Democrats never managed to f*** this up in this way, even when their party was split between Northern leftists and Dixiecrats.

The incoming House republican caucus held its internal vote after the elections in November, and voted 188-31 (by secret ballot, which is the norm for internal party votes) in favour of McCarthy. The whole point of being a caucus is that all 222 Republicans are now supposed to vote for the duly selected Republican candidate (i.e. McCarthy) in the public vote. The rebels (who do not include Jim Jordan himself - he voted for McCarthy like he is supposed to, and indeed nominated McCarthy on the second public ballot) are the real RINOs here - they are not accepting the basic responsibilities of caucus membership. If the Republicans can't agree on a Speaker, then in a very real sense they are not the majority.

This is why we are not seeing a move to choose a compromise candidate (according to gossip on various right-wing websites, Steve Scalise is acceptable to both factions). McCarthy thinks he is entitled to the speakership because he won the Republican caucus vote and the Republicans are in the majority. And if the Republicans were an organised political party rather than a clown show he would be right. And the 188 Republican congressmen who voted for him think they are entitled to the benefits of being in the majority, and the 31 dissidents should vote with the party if they want to share in those benefits. And if the Republicans were an organised political party, they would be right.

If the Republican rebels don't climb down after making their point for the cameras and the majority Republicans negotiate, then there are not two organised parties in the House with the Republicans in the majority. There are three parties (Democrats, Republicans, and MAGAtards) with nobody in the majority. And Scalise wouldn't be a Speaker leading a majority party, he would be a Speaker leading a coalition.

MAGAtards

Don't do this, please.