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Given the memes separating "women and children" from "men," there's something deeply ironic and perverse and even darkly hilarious about this. Of course, an FTM doesn't transition to becoming a man, but rather a transman, and I have to wonder, once we remove all the ideologically-based praise and support from being trans, if a typical FTM's experience as an adult in society is closer to that of a masculine/low status woman or that of a median man.
Depends on the type of FTM. One type specifically tries to look like Danny Devito because it will make them invisible. Their dysphoria seems to be related to discomfort with getting attention from men, and becoming invisible is the way to avoid that attention.
Another group transitions, and either the desire to reify their masculinity by becoming culturally gay or perhaps the influence of testosterone, leads them to become hypersexual. 2rafa's description from a few years ago of someone she "knew as a girl and she was a blue hair, tumblr type, I suspect into Yaoi. Now he’s a twinkish bottom with a thin beard addicted to Grindr hookups" rings very true to me. I know people like this. There's always the beard.
Sometimes this seems to happen to people who identified themselves as lesbians before transitioning, which means that they jumped the shark from not wanting male attention to really wanting male attention. I once met an FTM transitioner in a marriage with a woman who was looking for men to sleep with. "I like women and she's nice, but I need to be fucked, what she doesn't know won't hurt her" was a real quote. First time I ever encountered the concept of a lesbian sham marriage. I guess in this case the beard was more of a person.
Well, yeah. How else to show you're a guy/on T without growing a beard? Women don't gots beards!
(Honestly, the number one thing that drives me up the wall about the trans activism online is the retreat to rigid, and rigidly enforced, gender roles of the "pink is for girls, blue is for boys" type. Sure, someone once in a while will 'challenge the gender binary' by referencing cis women who are mannish in appearance or, say, have PCOS - one symptom of which may be hirsutism - or women post-menopause who, again, may become more hirsute so that breaks the rules around body hair and body type and so on hence gender is a social construct, but then they go right back to "hey, if you are AFAB and have this interest/look this way, consider you may be a trans man!")
Because it serves their ends. They deny a binary exists as a means to exit, and then depend on the same binary as a means to gain entry. The fact it's inconsistent is by necessity entirely uninteresting to them.
"Heads I'm X, tails I'm not Y" is all that matters. Engaging in a spirit of anything less than full credulity (or flat denial) is like getting lured into a three card monte game and getting vexed that the money card isn't where they showed you it was.
I’m pretty sure “they” are inconsistent because “they” consist of a bunch of vaguely-aligned interest groups.
Those darn Christians, denying allegiance to the Pope one minute and then affirming it when it suits them.
Context is enough to convey that "they" = the people who support and defend transgenderism.
The difference with Christians is indeed that I've never heard an individual Christian sincerely deny allegiance to the Pope one minute and then affirm it when it suits them. Transgenderists on the other hand must switch positions because the indispensably binary framing of the question requires that they do so.
I don't know the formal logic notation but it's logical that only an X can be a trans-Y, therefore no Y can be a trans-Y, therefore trans-Ys are not Ys. QED.
Extend the logic a little further and it resolves to X=X, Y=Y, X=/=Y, and anything that falls outside of X and Y can be Z, or Q, or K, but it's not X or Y. Or we can throw the whole lot out, there's nothing inherently inconsistent in writing the whole thing off and washing one's hands of it.
Trans logic rests on an argument that X and Y are not meaningful categories, and therefore X can in fact be Y. The flaw in the logic is plain to see (only one of those conditions can be true) and if you press them on one they must abandon the other to defend it. If you point out that the underlying inconsistency remains they'll switch back as required by the last conditional you pressed on even as it demonstrates the same inconsistency.
The pro-trans position is more like “X and Y are meaningful, but you are sorting some people incorrectly.” This is internally consistent. It explains the vast majority of gender CW issues.
But maybe I didn’t understand your observation. If X and Y really weren’t meaningful, why would they have to be disjoint?
If X and Y are not meaningful then what would it mean for X to become Y? Nothing, it's empty semantics. X can have none of the qualities of Y and be Y regardless because X and Y no longer have any qualities that meaningfully separate them. The only thing that's changed is the referent. Some Xs are now called Ys, no other changes required.
Sorting X from Y, whether correctly or incorrectly, requires a coherent method to discern X from Y. That's what imparts meaning to the labels.
To wit, if a woman can have a penis then why can't a woman have a male name, male pronouns, wear trousers and use the men's locker room? [Transmen: "Yeah! Why not!" Transwomen: "...Hang on, that's my card you're palming!"] The rest of the women do and you don't hear us complaining.
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