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I don't really want to do this, but I had another family member confess to me that he denies aspects of the Holocaust, so I'm going to make another one of those threads. I'm sorry. At least it's on the last day of this particular thread.
Before I get into this: most Holocaust denial is kind of dumb. My dad had me listen to this podcast a year or so ago, and there were some really stupid theories in that. Namely, that Hitler did literally nothing wrong. Claims that those Jews actually did stab Germany in the back with rioting, that they actually were breaking Germans with their banking stuff and their horrible lending schemes, that Hitler was profoundly Christian, that Hitler actually really just wanted peace and tried desperately to make peace only for the war-loving British to decline because they hate Christians, that Poland was extremely necessary both for farmland and to stop the mistreatment of ethnic Germans, and then further claims that Jews comprised the USSR and put Christians into gulags. Also Dresden and Hiroshima and Nagasaki were all destroyed for being true holy places for Christianity. Also Jews are genetically evil because they killed Christ and called down a blood curse upon themselves. Many Holocaust deniers are similarly terrible weakmen for the cause.
But I have to make this post because despite all sorts of bad argumentative tactics on that side, if they commit to a specific kind of Holocaust denial, I can't really refute it. It goes like this: Germans only forced Jews into work camps, there were no death camps. All the death camps were on the USSR side for a reason, and there were no Americans who investigated them. Hundreds of thousands of Jews died, but 6 million is far too much, and the Nuremberg Trials were show trials.
I know of a few things that refute this: the Posen speeches, a certain Nazi who fled to South America and wrote about the Holocaust without prompting, and the likely absence of a particularly large number of Jews. But I don't know why the death camps were all on the USSR side. Why were the death camps all on the USSR side? There are probably answers that don't involve anything too crazy.
I also am aware that it's pointless to contradict most Holocaust deniers, because they generally are willing to spend a lot more time than you on the subject, and they also are unwilling to accept any evidence I have, anyway. I once blindsided my dad with the Posen speeches, who had not heard of it. He actually didn't deny the veracity right away, but questioned what Himmler was really talking about, because the evidence just wasn't there for him that they could possibly kill that many Jews. I was pretty sad for getting so close, but not quite reaching the destination.
Well they did stab the germans in the back with their banking practices, and when the war started they also got their international banking buddies in the UK, and US to try and turn them against the germans. Тhey were also the purveyors of some of the worst kind of excesses the Weimar republic was known for. We haven't even mentioned the failed Commie revolution in germany.
It's mathematically impossible to do so, physically. Did he also mention the positively increasing number revisions from the somewhat believable 100k up on through the years?
The officially declared estimate is somewhere around 6 million Jews being killed via all causes, including shootings, gunshots, and concentration camps.
There were around 6 million members of the Nazis.
The genocide is supposed to have taken 4 years.
So each Nazi needs to kill an average of one Jew over the course of 4 years.
On a mathematical and physical level that seems trivial. ONE. It's not Hitler driving around with a gun trying to shoot everyone himself (which would require three kills per minutes without stopping or slowing down). It's the entirety of the Nazi party with weapons and organization vs the entirety of the Jews who are fleeing and mostly not fighting back.
I want to be clear, I am not making the argument that it did actually happen: I have no special expertise, insight, or evidence beyond parroting what other people claim and taking them at their word. But
is such an absurd exaggeration that I feel compelled to object. You either need to study your math, or your physics, or your rhetorical honesty. You're already fighting an uphill battle by going against the mainstream consensus, you're certainly not going to convince anyone to take you seriously if you're not even trying.
Sure you could kill them by distrubuting the murder to the army, but the claims they were all gassed and cremated to an extent that not enough remains can be found in the time allotted isn't possible. That's the whole illegal cookie math shtick. I'll remind you also in parts of the EU even questioning the dubious possibility of the things being claimed is forbidden and enough to throw you in jail.
Since when is the mainstream consensus good for anything, if tomorrow the MSM news told me the sky was blue, I'd go to the window to check, just in case we were being invaded by demons or something.
I don't have to convince anyone, people are already starting to get fed up with the shit the current globalist neolib regime is pulling.
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People sometimes forget the sheer scale of WW2. It truly was total war, or at least the closest approximation ever, unlike almost all that came before or after.
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