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Does anyone know how to get confirmation / denial from the police or prosecutors as a random nobody from another country? We might be getting a update on the Braveheart incident.
Highly sophisticated Twitter anons are now claiming that Fatos Ali Dumana has been charged with assaulting a minor:
Now, this isn't new information per se, as @FistfullOfCrows pointed out "it has been alleged". I can't find the link to where I first saw the allegation, but I've seen it, and remained skeptical thinking "shouldn't there be a medical report"? Lo, and behold, there seems to be one attached to the above tweet.
Ok, it's still trivial to fake something like this, it would be nice to get some sort of confirmation from a disinterested source.... oh, look (Turn off javascript to read. I tried archiving it, but they seem to have countermeasures) a local newspaper is saying that """Two further people""", """a man and a woman""", have been charged as a result of the incident. No names are named (funny how you can dox a little girl, but somehow adults are a step to far), so who knows, maybe it's the girl's parents that are being charged, but with all the other irregularities around the incident, and the newspaper's cageyness around the names of the suspects I wouldn't bet on it.
So... does anyone know how to go about confirming / denying this? @self_made_human, you're in Scotland, would you be willing to make some phone calls?
EDIT:
One piece of evidence I haven't seen anyone else post is this 20-minute-long pair of videos in which a young teenage girl, claiming (in my opinion, beyond any reasonable doubt; there is some supporting evidence) to be Lola and Ruby's friend Mayah, gives her side of the story. To summarize:
Condensing the rest for brevity:
So, that's the "she said". It's also worth noting that several times in the video, Mayah, with apparent contrition, "admits" to the girls possibly having exacerbated the situation with all their shouting. She also emphasizes that their belligerence was due to the outrageousness of Dumana's behavior and had nothing to do with race.
It's unclear what triggered the escalation to physical violence or by what dream logic Dumana's friend transformed into his sister. Still, I'm pretty confident that however much the girls might have raised the temperature of the situation, anyone in possession of all the facts would overwhelmingly blame Dumana and his party for what happened. As I already did before looking into it at all, based on what I believe to be better-calibrated priors than many people in this thread have.
(I speculate that some posters are trying to signal that their ability to noootice doesn't stop at race, that they're not to be confused with Uncle Roy. "Ruby's a hooker name, dude! Don't you know just how violent CHAV girls are?" "No, do you?" "No." This causes them to make epistemic mistakes that they wouldn't ordinarily make, like trusting the media and police's early reporting not to misleadingly downplay something a brown migrant did to a young girl, which we already know they did to some extent.)
I'm also open to bets.
I thought the person accompanying him, be it his wife, sister, or friend, was a woman? The local media articles about the additional arrests talk about "a man and a woman". Though it would be a whole 'nother level to start calling 12 year olds "sexy" in front of your wife or sister, I suppose.
The girl in the video is adamant that he was accompanied by a male at first, and that the sister only showed up later on.
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