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Which part is inflammatory?
Yes it’s so absurd it can hardly be believe can it?
Almost enough to make you seriously question how are society has been structured and why it’s been allowed and even enforced to be this way
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Did you search, at all, to see if it was plausible? Did you question your assumptions before questioning the poster? Because I heard about this part two days ago and have been waiting for someone to post a top-level comment. Every single thing he posted has been widely circulated across my network, it matches what I've seen reported, and the reason it is inflammatory is because of the facts of the event, not because it is untrue.
Yes, the black magistrate who released this guy doesn't have a law degree. Yes, she pays herself to run diversionary programs to which she sends criminals (not unlike the cash for kids judge whose sentence was commuted by Biden). Yes, all the immediate bystanders on video were all black and no, none of them lifted a finger to do anything while the white woman bled out in front of them and the black murderer strolled away. Yes, the city council served a birthday cake and had a celebration immediately before talking about this murder.
It's a lot of work to go find good links to prove each and every small claim, especially since this has been well-trod elsewhere, so please do more than say citation needed and walking off like you've improved the conversation.
Is there any reason you think any of this is untrue, or did it trigger a fnord?
P.S. The murderer said, "I got that white girl," twice, immediately afterwards. Go watch the video yourself if you want proof, but I won't be doing that work for you.
I don't have any reason to doubt this user, but this forum's rules should not be blatantly ignored. Don't blame the messenger.
Demanding sources for something that you don't doubt the truth of is a filibuster, not an honest criticism.
Tell that to the moderators who made the rule, not to me.
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"All" is undefined, but making a couple assumptions: Charlotte is about evenly black and white, and given the magistrate requirements below, it wouldn't be that surprising if it does end up that many of the judges are black women and, between personal beliefs and local/state policies, are relatively lenient.
Magistrate requirements:
Assuming she was full-time as a magistrate, the pay is in the low $50K range for the length of time she's been in the state.
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This one is less clear. Reporting suggests that she's listed as a director of operations for a Charlotte nonprofit that Brown may have been referred to, but the org has gone quiet and the site is down.
There's some fishy tax filings about a nonprofit she ran in Michigan, but doesn't relate directly to this case.
They took a supposedly 10 minute break from a four hour meeting to have birthday cake and mingle.
Whether this particular person paid her via the nonprofit is less important than the fact that she let him go, and also profits from these "diversions."
They threw a birthday party and served cake, immediately before discussing the murder of a woman on the train, where they tried to downplay the event.
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