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Culture War Roundup for the week of September 8, 2025

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Charlie Kirk believed it was part of God's perfect moral law that people who are my friends, my family, my coworkers should be stoned to death. He described Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown-Jackson (and other black women) as affirmative action hires who stole their spots from white people and who don't have the brain processing power to be taken seriously. This whole attempt to lionize Kirk after his death has been extremely black pulling, as a leftist. Basically none of the articles that try to do so can actually mention things Kirk said or believed because if they did their audience would not think he was worth lionizing! He didn't deserve to get killed for his views but this attempt to pretend Kirk was just the nicest kindest commentator we should all seek to emulate is insane.

Because it doesn't matter what he said, he died speaking. We don't murder people for speaking. If you start nitpicking the words he used while you eulogize him, you center how he brought it on himself with his speech. You accept the premise that we murder people for speech, and are haggling over the price.

If you think it was wrong to kill Kirk for his speech (as I do) then that's fine. If you want to go on to talk about what a great commentator he was and how kind and gentle and worthy of emulation he is, maybe you should quote some of the things he actually said.

You've never been to a funeral before have you?

I have.

So then you should be aware of the social norm of not speaking ill of the dead, even flattering them, when you eulogize them. So you can't even plead ignorance, you just don't think your political enemies that have been murdered deserve even that common decency.

I think it a dumb norm generally. One that does a lot of harm and we should do away with. This is not specific to my political enemies. Do you think we should avoid speaking ill of, even flattering, Jeffrey Epstein? Joseph Stalin? Mao Zedong? They are all dead!

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I think it a dumb norm generally.

Do you think we should avoid speaking ill of, even flattering, Jeffrey Epstein? Joseph Stalin? Mao Zedong? They are all dead!

You say it's generally a dumb norm, but to prove it you parade around some of the worst men who have ever lived? Sounds more like special pleading.

What if we replace them with unlikeable, but relatively average people? Should I avoid speaking ill of Destiny, Ethan Klein, or Hassan Piker, if they die? I think so.

I don't. If you think they were shitty and did shitty things you should feel free to say so.

There's a reason why you didn't use average people as examples originally, and it's because you know it would make your argument unconvicing.

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