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Culture War Roundup for the week of January 16, 2023

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The latest abortion kerfuffle is decently well in the past now, and we've had a number of good threads on it in various places. I think it's a reasonable time to ask here:

Have you changed your personal opinion or political position on abortion access at all over the course of the last year or so? If so, to what, and based on what?

A few years ago I was a pretty straightforward "legal safe and rare" bro, but the last year has really pushed me towards being anti-abortion.

  • Leftists seems to not just accept abortion, but celebrate it.

  • They do this while also taking extreme anti-natalist positions, attacking the concept of public school, attacking the concept of families, etc.

  • They refuse to condemn late stage abortions, or refuse to even offer an explanation for how this isn't just blatant murder.

If you dropped me into the middle of a movie which was the world we are currently living in, it wouldn't be a bad assumption to see leftists as cartoonish villain trying to collapse society. I mean seriously watch any of the congressional hearings about this. The abortion advocates won't acknowledge that murdering a living child the day before it is born is morally hazardous. It just goes so far beyond anything I could have ever imagined. The only word I can think of to describe this behavior is evil.

The RvW stuff finally just fully removed the leftists mask. No, actually they aren't just okay with murdering unborn children, but they actually celebrate it like some sort of sacrament.

So yeah: I have moved to the right on this topic.

While I would like to celebrate that you are joining the "obviously correct" side I think it is necessary to caution you about basing your political positions in what someone else says or does. If you think or thought it was a necessary evil or even a reluctant burden for abortion to be legal, safe and rare and just changed your position due to the disgust you felt with the craziest of your ingroup advocates; maybe it's better to maintain that position but condemn the crazies?.

Now with that nasty business out of the way, Welcome aboard!. Good of you to join all the correct thinking people!.

My position is in alignment with the Catholic Church. Basically: if a mothers life is being threatened, then abortion is permissible.

Those would be the legal, safe, and rare abortion im talking about. I still support those, because I don’t see the surgical removal of an ectopic pregnancy as the same as murdering an unborn child.

The reaction from me is because before, leftists were essentially saying that they needed this tool, but that they would use it responsibly. My reaction is due to learning that their “use” is industrial scale murder of children.

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