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naraburns  nihil supernum  2mo ago (text post)   6321 thread views

Quality Contributions Report for September 2025

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@Dean:

@100ProofTollBooth:

Contributions for the week of August 25, 2025

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Contributions for the week of September 1, 2025

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@Dean:

@FiveHourMarathon:

@RandomRanger:

Contributions for the week of September 8, 2025

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@100ProofTollBooth:

@ArjinFerman:

@FiveHourMarathon:

@Southkraut:

@CrispyFriedBarnacles:

@vorpa-glavo:

@Testing123:

@problem_redditor:

Okay, Chuck. Another Fine Mess You've Gotten Us Into.

@NullHypothesis:

@oats_son:

@CrispyFriedBarnacles:

@jake:

@Iconochasm:

@MonkeyWithAMachinegun:

Contributions for the week of September 15, 2025

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@kky:

@Dean:

Contributions for the week of September 22, 2025

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@gattsuru:

@Tractatus:

@Zephyr:

Contributions for the week of September 29, 2025

@CrispyFriedBarnacles:

@BahRamYou:

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@Iconochasm:

@WhiningCoil:

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the collapse of contractualism

This is, fundamentally, what 1980s media was trying to warn us about with the whole corpo-state meme. They didn't call it that, but they were all gesturing at the problem the "1A only protects you from government" meme would result in today, though they couldn't fully predict the eventual extent of the power of the semi-private (or plausibly private) actor.

We failed to solve the problem then- we expected our infinite material greed to do that for us, and in our defense that solves a lot of problems- and now the capture has set in and it's come home to roost.

I'm curious as to what specific media you are referencing. From my own small, myopic perch, 80's media seems to be all over the place in terms of future predictions, with the major constants being:

  1. They like to make media about the future in the first place, and
  2. They foresaw an increased ingression of corporate presence in a person's daily life

The latter was almost certainly because they themselves were living through a period of rapid corporate expansion into the personal domain that probably seemed like an endless march. That said though, I'm not super well versed in 80's media, and what little I have seen or read has moral lessons and warnings all over the spectrum.

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