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Culture War Roundup for the week of October 6, 2025

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Andrew Jackson belongs on US currency for irony's sake because he'd be dead set against the existence of the institution that prints it.

Jackson was one of the worst US presidents ever, he was a racist even for his own time, which is saying something. He shouldn't be on any US currency and ideally his grave and memorials get turned into spots commemorating his victims instead of him, a bit like what was done here: https://youtube.com/watch?v=nrATA8gWdaQ

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Andrew Jackson secured US expansion both on the battlefield before his presidency and as president. He is both the only president to have completely paid off the national debt and the only president to need to be physically restrained from killing his own would-be assassin.

Easily top ten President.

If unclear, my suggestion is that putting Jackson on the most popular bill issued by a bank of the United States is pretty close to pissing on his grave rhetorically. His vociferous opposition to the (second) Bank of the United States is well-documented. A choice quote of his (although the provenance of some is questionable, it's at least aligned in sentiment with official speeches):

Gentlemen! I too have been a close observer of the doings of the Bank of the United States. I have had men watching you for a long time, and am convinced that you have used the funds of the bank to speculate in the breadstuffs of the country. When you won, you divided the profits amongst you, and when you lost, you charged it to the bank. You tell me that if I take the deposits from the bank and annul its charter I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin! Should I let you go on, you will ruin fifty thousand families, and that would be my sin! You are a den of vipers and thieves. I have determined to rout you out, and by the Eternal, (bringing his fist down on the table) I will rout you out!

Was he a bad president in the sense that he was guilty of the grave moral failing of racism or in the sense that his actions sabotaged the interests and conditions of the nation? Also, in what sense of the word was his racism seen as severe?

Depends on who you include in "nation". If it's including the Native Americans then yes he sabotaged the interests and conditions of the nation.

Manifest destiny, while it as a term was only coined well after the Jackson presidency arose from and was a labeling of what Jackson was doing. It is undoubtedly severely racist, see the aftermath of the trail of tears for example.

no, the indians were not part of the American nation because they were part of the various indian nations

the indians could stay, but they would be treated as individuals and would have to renounce their indian nations and any claim of sovereignty or right to the land

his speeches and writings make pretty clear he wanted to remove the indian nations because the alternative was escalating conflict, that Americans would win it, that it would result in "utter annihilation" for the indian nations, and the only way to stop that was to raise an army to shoot Americans and even go to war against at least Georgia, which he would not do

it is the opposite of "racist even for his own time"

you don't really have a clue what you're talking about, huh?

Nah, he hated central banks and had a huge wheel of cheese in the Whitehouse on his inauguration. One of the coolest presidents.

Moreover, duels.

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