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What happens when Groypers start attending your church?
I've seen (in real life even!) blue-tribe immersed evangelical leaders bemoan the lack of religious interest in the side of America they see. Our churches have largely pandered to the "wider culture" (typically center-left leaning) without realizing that there is a burgeoning counter-culture that signals great interest in traditional religion. When they do realize there is such a counter-culture, they condemn it.
The most recent example is the the much-ballyhooed Fuentes-Carlson interview. The David Frenchs of the world signaled their great distaste. The very-online dissident right was mostly pleased. As I have never heard Fuentes speak before, I decided to listen to the entire interview. What surprised me most was how much both Carlson and Fuentes talked about Christianity. I had not known Fuentes claimed to be religious. (As an aside, the interview did nothing to convince me that Fuentes holds any deep convictions, much less genuine Christian faith). (As another aside, it turns out I am more "extreme" in my religious views than Fuentes: conditioned on him being religious I would have expected him to be to my right [insert "that awkward moment" meme]). If Fuentes continues to treat Christianity as a key part of his identity, his followers will start showing interest in the Church.
I'm not the only one who has noticed. There are other (near-dissident) leaders in the evangelical world who are looking to engage with the wayward, but seeking, young right. The pastor Michael Clary has written several posts either arguing for reaching the right or directly appealing to the dissident right. While less than eloquent (and with some boomer-like mannerisms), Mark Marshall explicitly recommends engaging with Groypers. Even conservative stalwart Kevin DeYoung has started to use language that appeals to the dissident right without outright condemning it (though he has engaged with dissident right ideas in the past).
But, by and large, our churches have been conditioned to be "salt and light" to a left-leaning world. We know how to deal with a blue-haired lesbian. Even conservative/orthodox churches can show the love of Christ to the wayward left. Be winsome, win them for Christ, and let sanctification come later (if it happens at all!). But our churches are not at all prepared for a young, irreverent to cultural norms, Christian Nationalist man who is interested in tradition and yearning for something more meaningful than a Ted-talk and a rock-concert on a Sunday.
And come they will, especially if the church is little-o orthodox, especially if it is traditional, and especially if proscribes female leadership. We shall soon see how tolerant our churches actually are. We are told we must show love to the sinners to our left. Let us see whether we show the same love to sinners on our right.
Oh dear, as an actual literal rad trad is this a dynamic I'm familiar with. Groypers like traditional Catholicism- far more than vice versa, we mostly think Nick Fuentes' brain is rotting from aids- because we are a bit antisemitic, very socially conservative, and distinctively western(and proud of it). We do not like their attitudes towards women(we think they actually hate them, rather than recognizing their different role in the order of creation). We're skeptical of their piety. Actual rad trads are often shocked by the things twitter tradcaths put their name behind(and DR twitter has a running joke about how they don't actually go to church- actual rad trad twitter is a different world) and are not happy to be associated with spicy DR takes about race or whatever. When this happens out loud in real life there can be fallouts and shunning rather than flame wars.
Who are some good people to follow in actual rad trad twitter?
Trad websites/blogs/media outlets- FSSPXnews, Fisheaters, Rorate Caeli, the Remnant.
People- Fr Dave Nix(one of the few hardliner priests you can find on twitter), Michael Matt(editor of the Remnant), Gabriel Sanchez, Edward Hapsburg(yes, one of those Hapsburgs).
Hmmm can only find the last on a cursory search? Strange. If you want to DM me your twitter I can just follow you. My name/pfp is the same over there as well.
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