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PaperclipPerfector  1d ago (text post)   854 thread views

Friday Fun Thread for December 12, 2025

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I think there's a free niche, in our AI world. Strike it while it's hot deal, IMO. There's only one way humans online can keep talking to each other without the doubt that it's really another person you are talking to and not AI: paying for posting. And also having anti-AI policy. I don't think it's going to be easy to create something like this, we would need a Bluesky style mass-exodus to that platform and we are all so used to posting for free that the idea will be met with natural revulsion, but IMO it's the only way to continue talking to real people.

Or maybe such a platform already exists: Something Awful still validates people like that. I'd love it to be not ideologically captured like SA. Maybe framing it as a monthly subscription would be acceptable.

I think the dead internet is going to become true very soon, it already is to an extent. It must get much worse before people will really resort to paid posting.

Nobody wants to pay though.

Try running a paid subscription internet service. I'm actually selling something that costs money, so there's more of a value proposition than 'internet forum'. It's bleak. Over 100 free trial users, 4 subscribers, 3 of them unsubscribed. Of course I am not a very good businessman or marketer or developer tbh... but I think people underestimate the difficulty of getting people to subscribe!

Maybe we won't want to talk to each other online anymore in the future, but I think the problem will become a real pain point very soon. If I'm forced to make a bet: will we stop talking to each other online or will people pay for the service somehow, I'm betting on the former.

will we stop talking to each other online or will people pay for the service

If we end up with the former, I'll observe that "RETVRN TO 1993" doesn't sound the worst from the perspective of political norms. That does assume the alternative is "going outside and touching grass".

It would be funny is the main political divide in the future is “grass touchers vs slop eaters”?

The "grass fed" versus "feedlot" jokes practically write themselves.

I think most people will embrace the AI. Most people are not discerning enough to deal with well-prompted AI, recall the 'changemyview' redditors who got their views changed by an old Sonnet, 3.6 or 3.7. They were very upset about that when it was revealed they were talking with AIs but they couldn't tell the difference.

"The AI-generated content proved significantly more effective than human comments, with personalized responses ranking in the 99.4th percentile of all users on the subreddit, meaning only about 0.6% of human commenters were more persuasive"

AI is only going to get more persuasive while the population's faculties are plateauing or even declining. It's a huge boon for the algorithms running social media, making them more addictive and also producing more content.

I think that this forum and its users are wildly out of distribution. Go to webnovel.com, the nhentai comments section. Go to a normie facebook server or sports twitter or the average AO3 story. These are not very sophisticated thinkers that are going to be outwitting modern AI used adeptly.

I mean they already consume shit like tiktok too, but there’s for example us, here on the Motte talking to each other. The Motte IMO is going to be affected by the coming avalanche sooner or later, so in my head the question is - where would I go? I came up with “a paid forum”, but I think touching grass OSS an acceptable outcome too

Private group chats obviously, that's where almost all conversation has moved already.

The funny thing is I'm pretty sure it's not about the money, it's about the hassle of putting your credit card in. You could charge 1c/yr for your forum and your conversion rate would still be single digit because people just don't like paying for stuff.

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