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Transnational Thursday for December 18, 2025

Transnational Thursday is a thread for people to discuss international news, foreign policy or international relations history. Feel free as well to drop in with coverage of countries you’re interested in, talk about ongoing dynamics like the wars in Israel or Ukraine, or even just whatever you’re reading.

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I'm curious about Mottizens' opinions about the US administration's motivations for the regime change push in Venezuala.

I think its multi-factoral. Monroe doctrine cleansing of Iran's influence (shadow fleet, drone technology sharing) as well as potentially stopping sharing of a cleaner less high-sulphur based crude oil to China which is easier to process for US's rival.

Reclamation of oil industry nationalised assets doesn't quite sit right as Grok says in 1976 they got paid 'fair market value' and there was varied compensation in 2006 (although they straight up seized assets from Exxon-Mobil).

I believe Fentanyl/cocaine has practically nothing to do with it despite the administration's claims.

Thoughts?

I want the US to deport everyone. Venezuelans are annoying. The ones not homeless on the streets are super loud and want to argue about everything. To me fixing Venezuela is all about fixing countries so that they remigrate. The rest of Latam is fairly pissed off at Venezuela too. Nobody likes migrants. In the US non of the recent ones speak English. With Maduro in power it was tough to figure out how to deport them. Now we can send a few million back.

I don’t think Venezuela is one main drug supplier. I don’t think the oil matters for a long time. But I do think fixing Latam lets us deport a ton of people I want out of America.

Maduros gone. Now we can get rid of asylum claims and begin the process of shipping people back.

The best Casus Belli we had here was the 10 million Venezuelans who have invaded countries throughout Latam and the US. That’s far worse than fentanyl claims. This won’t be a Syria/Libya situation because the migration already occurred.