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I'm starting a new top-level regarding trigger happy Iceman meets wine mom in Minneapolis because, rather than debating the videos, I'd like to focus more on a compare and contrast to get a true culture war angle. People have made an analogy to the woman who died on Jan 6th but I don't think it lands strongly enough. Permit me to cut closer to the bone, friends.
The only fatality on Jan 6th was an unarmed woman being shot by a federal agent[1] because she was opposing what she considered an illegitimate government action. Liberals tearlessly argued this is what happens when you Fuck Around while conservatives argued she was righteously Resisting (TM).
Today the players are the same but the jerseys are flipped. Liberals cry with so, so many tears of empathy for the dead woman in the car while conservatives argue they were obstructing a legitimate state function and put the officer in danger and this is what happens when you Fuck Around.
In broad strokes it's clear neither side cares about democracy or rule of law per se. Conservative faith in rule of law evaporates when it says no to Trump and liberal empathy for the scrappy civil disobedients dries up when it's a Chud. Both sides are happy with mob violence when it's their side doing it and cry tyranny whenever they Find Out.
Is it cultural warring if my opinion is I think population replacement of people like me is bad and therefore I want aggressive deportations?
I have no problem with this Good lady. I don’t view her as my enemy. She’s probably just a midtwit that follows what she’s told to do. If it was Nazi Germany she would be a Nazi. Societies are filled with people like this.
I don’t even have a problem with the people I want deported. I just assume if we import a lot of Somalis and Amerindians that will end up voting against my interests like a lot of Latam countries. If I were them I would emigrate to America too.
I feel like a lot of the cultural war is cosplaying and people think it’s just a game. For the Good later I attribute this more to mistake theory and her interests are probably more similar to mine but she doesn’t know it. To the latter group I think longer run it’s more a conflict theory issue where we probably do have real long term differing interests.
For the Good lady well one obstructor getting killed means people see there are consequences to that behavior. So we get less of it and ICE can focus on their mission. And honestly I think a lot of midtwits are good at following the power structure when they figure out whose in charge.
I guess I would consider both Good and Babbit as midtwit versions of my own tribe. But the elites leading them have a fundamental mistake theory between them. I don’t think the Wasps who are now liberals are members of a different tribe. It’s more like the Cold War of an intertribe ideology conflict between capitalist and communists. One side had a fundamental mistake theory that wasn’t apparent and the other system works significantly better.
Minnesota has a significant Nordic heritage which has made them more liberal. But in the Nordic countries Social Democracy works well. I might even be a SocDem if I lived in Denmark. I think they just haven’t realized that political ideology doesn’t work with groups that evolved in different environments.
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