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Culture War Roundup for the week of January 19, 2026

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agreeable and submissive: these are all completely within the median woman's control. As they say, manners cost nothing.

This is untrue. Agreeableness is a largely fixed Big 5 trait, like extroversion. Many, perhaps most, classic women's and children novels are about this. Female writers tend to be more introverted, disagreeable and high openness than average, and are always writing about that experience.

But more than that, agreeableness is a trait with more utility for a woman's parents, husband, boss, and babies than for the woman herself, so it's only worth cultivating if circumstances reward it. Circumstances do not currently reward it in most circumstances. If you've got to work a job on the open marketplace (as most women do, even once married), best not be too easy to get taken advantage of. Also, very high submissiveness invites abusive relationships.

If you've got to work a job on the open marketplace (as most women do, even once married), best not be too easy to get taken advantage of. Also, very high submissiveness invites abusive relationships.

This. Who here is a father of a daughter? Who here would really raise their baby girl to be a “20-something slim attractive virgin who is agreeable and submissive“ to whatever douchebag she unwisely ends up tying herself too, instead of an emancipated independent woman who can stand up to the world? Yeah, thought so.

...the other factor is that she's presumably willing to defer to the Father's judgment as to who she should date and marry, which gives dad a large say in selecting a worthy man and scaring away the Lotharios.

After all, he has an EXTREME amount at stake and thus has incentive to help her select the best as possible... and possibly to punish those who do commit abuse.

We still do that whole "Father walks the bride down the aisle and 'gives her away' to the Groom" at weddings. WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS?

In places with functional matchmaking systems. In America, they're just as likely to end up old maids.

Of course, those fathers raising an "emancipated independent woman who can stand up to the world" conveniently neglect to teach her not to abuse her partners, while supporting raising sons to be agreeable and submissive and thus easy for her to take advantage of...

an emancipated independent woman who can stand up to the world

It would not be the first time that parents raised their children in a way that sounds like it will make them happy but actually won’t.

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