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(Does this count as CW? Happy to post it somewhere else if that would be more appropriate.)

I really liked the idea of banning advertising from this blog post (though the post itself is somewhat poorly written and light on the details). HN has a lively discussion of it. I've seen some mentions of this idea here and there but never a really good analysis on it. And I want to change that!

The first step is of course to tighten up the definitions. The most important is to define advertising. I would define it as:

Advertising is whenever party A pays party B to give unsolicited information to party C.

(Maybe the resident lawyers here could have a crack at cleaning this up?)

The underlying theory of harm is that party C is getting inaccurate information designed (often very well designed) to manipulate them into a decision not in their interests. Note that crowding out good information is also very much part of the harm. If C is getting good information from sources not paid for it, it is reasonable that these unpaid sources won't put as much effort into disseminating information as sources paid to spread information (which presumably won't be as truthful due to the conflicting interests from party A).

To clean up potential fuzzy boundaries (I'm sure I've missed a bunch):

  • Party A will presumably be some corporation. What if they hire another firm to build a website for them? Is that now illegal? No: because the website design is only given to party A. Party B (here the design firm) is not communicating with party C.
  • Is hosting a corporate website now illegal? No: because party C has specifically solicited the specific information by typing in the URL, following a link, etc...
  • Is posting a positive review of some product now illegal? Not if you didn't get paid for it.
  • Are Google ads ok because the user "solicited" the results when they ran the search? No. The solicitation must be "reasonably" specific. A keyword doesn't count (unless maybe if it is something explicit like the name of the company but any decent search engine would already surface those results without side-payments...).
  • What about trailers before movies? This one is interesting. Theaters could advertise two show times. The time when the movie actually starts and a period before when trailers are showing. If you show up early, you've effectively solicited trailers. Does this break my own argument? I'm not sure... Either way, studios paying to show trailers would be in the gray zone at least.

So, what is illegal?

  • Spam (unsolicited marketing emails but not emails that you signed up for). Unless the spammers are doing it out of the goodness of their hearts...
  • Google, Youtube, Meta, parts of Amazon (the sponsored results at least), etc.... Pretty much any ad-supported business model is now illegal.
  • Ads in newspapers. Product placement in movies, etc...
  • Those annoying sales people who call you out of the blue.
  • The entire fashion industry?

Why do I want this?

  • The obvious reasons: ads are annoying and obnoxious and degrade the general experience of the web. And I genuinely do believe that lots of marketing just serves to mislead and manipulate.
  • A deeper reason is that once one company starts using ads, the rest have to follow or get drowned out. This turns into a soft marketing war and leads to misallocation of resources (into advertising dollars from other productive uses). This is why crowding out good information is an important part of the theory of harm.

Possible objections?

  • Marketing is just efficiently getting information to the user! This is obviously nonsense to me. We live in a completely information saturated environment. A world with Wikipedia and (non-sponsored) Amazon results cannot possibly be reliant on ads to get enough information to the user.
  • First amendment concerns: I'm on the record as rather blasé about freedom of speech so I don't really care? But many people on this website do so I'll say: no party is being restricted from saying whatever they want, just restricted from using a sock-puppet to do it.
  • Difficulty of definition/enforcement: I think I gave a decent definition above (but I'm not an expert so comments welcome!). Enforcement will I think be doable in the important cases at least because marketing by its very nature needs to be noticeable.

Any thoughts?

I'm not sure I accept your premise that advertising is a net negative. There are certainly many things I have gladly purchased that I found out about through advertising. My intuitive sense is that ads have had a net positive or at least net neutral impact on my life, not a negative one.

But I will accept the premise that we want to ban ads for the sake of the discussion.

Advertising is whenever party A pays party B to give unsolicited information to party C.

As one of the "resident lawyers" I don't think there's a way to meaningfully define advertising in a way that only captures what you want to capture.

First off, your definition doesn't stop party A from directly advertising to party C. This is the first major loophole, and it's incredibly easy to get around. Big companies just increase the size of their marketing departments and do all ads in house. Little companies can't afford to do this and just get crushed. Bad outcome.

Second, there's the issue of "pays." In the example you give, you seem to interpret this narrowly to mean "give money" but there are many ways to compensate or incentivize people to do things without directly paying them. So this is another relatively easy loophole to exploit.

Third, there's "unsolicited information" which is extremely nebulous and includes many things we don't generally think of as advertising:

  • Suppose I turn on the TV hoping to watch the local news. The news broadcast is interrupted by a weather report. I didn't want to see the weather report because I get the weather from an app on my phone. Isn't the weather report an example of party A (the station) paying party B (the weatherman) to give unsolicited information (the forecast) to party C (me)?

  • Suppose I pull up behind a car with bumper stickers on it (e.g. "Baby on Board" or the Christian fish). Isn't this an example of party A (the driver) paying party B (the maker of the bumper sticker) to give unsolicited information (the info on the bumper sticker) to party C (me)?

  • Suppose I buy clothing with the brand's logo prominently displayed on it. Isn't this an example of party A (me) paying party B (the clothing company) to give unsolicited information (the clothing brand I am wearing) to party C (others around me)?

  • Suppose I hire an artist to make me a large sign supporting my favorite politician and I place it in my front yard. Isn't this an example of party A (me) paying party B (the artist) to give unsolicited information (my political views) to party C (others around me)?