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I have been against war in the Middle East since my youth, long before I knew that Israel played any role in it, back when most people thought it was for oil. My first political engagement was Ron Paul followed by Infowars (it was a different time). I was against it because it harms a lot of innocent people. For the same reason: I’m against the Ukraine war, I want to execute fentanyl dealers, I’m against Somali scammers, I am against mass low-wage migration, I am for tax-maxxing the wealthy into oblivion. “Does it harm innocent people and benefit the evil” — I am against it.
So you ask me how I feel about a “group” but refuse to define it. The issue I have with Israel is its oppression against innocent people, which is more egregious because they lie about it and because America supports it. If you ask me whether we should end relations with KSA for Yemen I would say yes, but this event is simply outside my political awareness, I see nothing about it anywhere and I can’t determine what’s true or false. There are separate issues I have with Jewish organizations:
they run the cars4kids scam which exploits compassionate Americans by stealing their cars under the pretense of charity. Up to 1 billion a year. This is evil. They are not called out by the Jewish community. Ben Shapiro shills them on his show. The Jewish community at large runs cover for it; no jew has stopped associating with the groups operating this scheme for moral reasons. They should be called out. I know people who have donated their car to them. I have, unwittingly, passed by their location on the way to a brewery. Their town is in my state, where they pop out 8 kids each using welfare schemes in addition to the charity scheme. When 70 of them got caught welfare scheming some years ago, they used their political connections to settle: all they had to do was pay back half the amount. You can watch a video about this town published two weeks ago with 8 million views because it turns out a lot of Americans hate evil.
they run the “fellowship of Christians and Jews” charity. This steals hundreds of millions of dollars. They exploit the compassion of Christians by manipulating their guilt-prone instincts under the guise of charity, targeting the elderly. All of the money goes to Israel. This is evil. It is abject evil. No one in the Jewish community calls it out.
they are engaged in the security grant program scheme. They are disproportionate recipients of hundreds of millions of dollars in these grants, and use it to build their religious centers. This was a united effort by the Jewish community, just like how they got themselves to be labeled minority business owners for loans.
in NYC they steal billions of dollars in public money so that their kids can be sent to religious indoctrination centers which do not teach English; they do not even learn how to spell “America”.
How should a normal, compassionate, rational person feel about the groups behind all this?
This is an untruth. It is you who do not define your terms when you say "they" and "the groups behind all this." Because you like to remain weaselly and evasive on the Jewish Question. Most JQ posters are evasive on the topic of what exactly they want to do about Jews (i.e, how they would personally answer the Jewish Question), but you are evasive about who you're condemning when you write all your Jew-posts.
So let's be specific. The group is Jews. Jewish people. I include here anyone who identifies as Jewish, whether or not they practice Judaism. If your definition is different, then be precise. When you say "the Jewish community" and "Jews do this" and "no Jew does that," do you mean everyone who identifies as Jewish? Do you mean specifically religious Jews, or Zionist Jews, or pro-Israel Jews, or any Jew who does not explicitly condemn other Jews? Am I a Jew because I have Jewish ancestry, even though I have literally zero connection to Jewish culture and religion? Would my Jew blood make me a Jew who does Jewish things? (And is my Jew blood stronger than my Irish blood?) When you bring up things like fraudulent charity programs (I'll accept for the sake of argument that your judgment is correct, though in reality of course I accept nothing you say at face value), how are those "Jewish" schemes that Jews must call out in order to be a considered virtuous? Do you call out every bad thing Christians do and side with people who hate Christians because of it? Even assuming some of these allegedly fraudulent charities are backed by Jewish organizations, is this some behavior that Jews disproportionately engage in, or is charity fraud a pretty widespread phenomenon? (Hint: look into most charities and you'll find a lot of graft and definitely a lot of waste.) This is reminiscent of the Joo-posters who blame pornography on Jews because a lot of pornographers are Jewish-- as if Jews invented pornography, as if consumers of pornography are largely Jews (or wouldn't consume pornography if not for Jews), as if there wouldn't be a pornography industry without Jews. It's all "I hate this group, let's find some examples of members of this group doing bad things -> This group is responsible for all the bad things!"
Your lack of answer is an answer. You hate Jews. You probably carve out some exceptions, like if there is an individual Jew who writes anti-Zionist books and agrees with you "You're right, we Jews are just the worst!" maybe you don't hate him. But by your admission above, you consider Jews as a group to be uniquely perfidious for specious reasons. It's irrational hatred and disingenuously constructed.
What all of these groups have in common is that they hold the Talmud in high regard, and they believe that the authoritative redaction of the Talmud is the Mishneh Torah by Rambam. I can look into this work to see if the behavioral guidelines are responsible for their conduct. In this work, in chapter 10 of Avodat Kochavim, it is written that it is forbidden to have mercy on gentiles:
I can then check to see if this is in effect today, and if this passage is taught. Because I have familiarized myself with the Jewish religion, I am aware that “Chabadniks” are fast becoming the new center of worldwide Jewry. So I can check to see whether this is taught on their official website. It is, as recently as February 18th of this year, so not even a month ago. The passage is there and taught. But is it in effect? Maybe they don’t really believe it is in effect. I can see that the official website has ten Rabbis teaching this course. I click to listen to each. I hear that they all teach it as authoritative and binding in the present day. I see that there are footnotes. These footnotes are new, from the 21st century, added to clarify anything that could be misinterpreted. The footnotes agree with the consensus of rabbis, and are even worse: they add that other authoritative texts consider this rule “one of the 613 mitzvot of the Torah”. I am aware of how seriously they take their mitzvot. The footnotes include this detail —
I find this problematic. They teach, and believe, and confirm, that I should be killed as soon as they get power over me. This is an issue, especially so given the demographic projection of this group, and the power that they already wield in America. For instance, I know that Jared Kushner belongs to this group. I know that Jared Kushner compelled Trump to fire Chris Christie because Christie prosecuted Kushner’s father, and Jared believed that his father’s crime should be decided by a Rabbinial court. Jared believes that the Rabbis should form a clerical court in my state, which supercedes the legal court. (Jared’s father had blackmailed his brother with sexual kompromat; Jared’s father may have brought down Governor McGreevey using an Israeli honeypot, as he had brought McGreevey’s lover in on a visa years earlier from Israel; Vanity Fair has a piece on that story). Jared has influenced his father-in-law, the president of the United States, to wage a war against Iran. This war has killed Americans and could kill many more. It is also killing Iranians, and no Persian ever called me goy.
So here is my criteria: do they believe in Rambam, and the Talmud which informs him? Do they believe these things in an unreformed state, that is, that the rules are in effect today? Do they support Chabad? As I’ve said in comments before, there is no criticism to be made against Reform Judaism, except in those cases where they act as fellow-travelers to a cult that wants me dead. Ezra Koenig is the best singer-songwriter of the 00s; I even love his Jewish music. Jeff Kaplan rules. I like the Weinstein Bros, I think they’re cool. I wish we had 1000 more Von Neumanns.
You complain that Talmud does not fully value gentile lives, and prefer guy whose attitude to humanity in general was akin to professional bug exterminator feeling towards roaches?
Sure your priorities are in right order.
Hey, I didn’t say I wanted them to have political power! Give them money, free room and board, and let them go wild with STEM.
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