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My timeline on X is filled with the Bronze Age Pervert-type, for lack of better term the philosemitic Far Right, accusing figures and organizations on the Right like Nick Fuentes and Patriot Front of being funded by SPLC and essentially claiming that right-wing antisemitism is astroturfed.
These were the same people that fed-jacketed Nick Fuentes with no evidence as well.
Almost certainly, the informant is from one of the "White Nationalist 1.0" groups, like the Aryan Brotherhood or something. Basically the groups that the SPLC and ADL wish still represented far right-wing antisemitism.
So what's most interesting here is the indictment seems to be helping the SPLC's mission insofar as the Bronze Age Pervert Sphere is playing a supporting role in the SPLC's gayops to bad-jacket the antisemitic Right wing and claim it is an inorganic movement.
That whole BAPsphere, as far as I can tell, hasn’t done a single positive thing for advancing the Right. The closest they’ve come is creating an online bookseller, but it’s not the 1960s and ideology is no longer disseminated by written material.
Au contraire, their twitter presence has meaningfully spread right wing ideas. Mostly dumb ones, but most people are dumb and very receptive to dumb ideas. As you yourself note, books don't spread ideology. Edgy memes do. BAP is a jewish homosexual who convinces his followers to spread memes far and wide.
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